Thanks for the reply! I completely agree about people being extremely nice on here. I think I am closer to 40 watts per sq/ft, since it really is a 3x3 space I am trying to illuminate? But the plants are out of control. I really should have takes a before and after of the trimming i did yesterday. I took a solid half pound of leaves and trim off them. I am honestly not sure if I should run 4-5 super autos per 4x4 or 48 smaller in the same space. My results with dwafs has been the same as photos, the right strain from the right breeder, and it is shocking. But you have to shell out for genetics. I have some photos I am going to post later that are almost 5 feet around and the 2 from Barney's Farm have stems like walking sticks after being outside since mid-april. As for autos, I have found Dutch Passion, Greenhouse, Joint Doctor's Lowryder, and even Short Stuff are all pointless for SOG. The only strain that really is showing results I want is Red Dwarf from Buddha Seeds. They look like there will be buds down to the dirt. What size do you want them to be? Most autos do great in 3's, but the size of the pot directly affects plant life. I am looking for a solid and consistent 60 day plant, which is harder than you would think. As you can see I have 4 60 day wonders, which are 6 feet tall, 75 days old, and look like the actual williams wonder pheno. Autos are all over the place, but so are pheno seeds! I have also noticed non-feminized seeds have a lot better vigor and are amazingly consistent if you get from a good breeder. Pull all but the strongest male, and you can get some serious seed stock!