Live Stoner Chat my thought about lights

[Magic]

Hello family, I want to pick your brain early this morning if you don't mind so fire up a j and tell me what you think.

The biggest down fall to growing indoors is that you will never match the suns rays. Not saying you can't grow great plants indoors but it'll never be as power full as the sun.

Now we all know that, but I wanted to point out another factor I think is critical but I've never seen covered.

on/off switch:
In nature the sun doesn't just turn off and on. I think this is the second biggest thing we need to understand. The sun rises, it peaks then it sets. I think all plants know this and having a light on a timer is very unnatural to a plant.

My theory: what if u could create a light to simulate the sun rising peaking, and setting? If there was a way to have like a internal timer so the first 4 hours it runs at a lower intensity, the next 8 hours it'll run at full intensity next 4 run at 75% then the last 2-4 hours back down to a lower intensity do you think this would have a more natural effect on the growth of indoor plants?

If you have any other ideas to improve indoor growing to simulate a more natural environment please share!

 

[oldster]

The sun is also moving in position relative to the plant so the different angles get to different parts of the plant

 

[Bilbo]

Would it apply to autoflowers other than the light reaching different parts?

 

[Magic]

I think it would apply to any indoor plant. The change in angle and time of day would play a big role imo.

 

[Dark Matter]

Also would switching the light on and off not shock the plant sometimes?

 

[Epic Genetics]

Hello family, I want to pick your brain early this morning if you don't mind so fire up a j and tell me what you think.

The biggest down fall to growing indoors is that you will never match the suns rays. Not saying you can't grow great plants indoors but it'll never be as power full as the sun.

Now we all know that, but I wanted to point out another factor I think is critical but I've never seen covered.

on/off switch:
In nature the sun doesn't just turn off and on. I think this is the second biggest thing we need to understand. The sun rises, it peaks then it sets. I think all plants know this and having a light on a timer is very unnatural to a plant.

My theory: what if u could create a light to simulate the sun rising peaking, and setting? If there was a way to have like a internal timer so the first 4 hours it runs at a lower intensity, the next 8 hours it'll run at full intensity next 4 run at 75% then the last 2-4 hours back down to a lower intensity do you think this would have a more natural effect on the growth of indoor plants?

If you have any other ideas to improve indoor growing to simulate a more natural environment please share!

suplimental lighting spread out so the plant gets hit from all angles and hights just like outside , and you could run multiple lights on a few different timers to increase/decrease intensity

they way my rooms are built and lights are used/positioned i have light and reflective light bouncing around and hitting every square inch of my plants , even my floors are reflective

peace

p.s. its all about invironment , dont think we cant improve on outdoors , nature is great , but it isnt perfect and science has shown us what and where to make improvements , a common myth is to say outdoors is best

p.s.s. i run enough lights (wont go into that much detail) that to avoid one really big spike in electicity i have to use 8 timers and a secondary panel that has a built in timer , i have them all offset a bit so i avoid that big spike all at once , but my point is , environment is key , one big light is great for big tops , but in the long run 2 or more smaller lights give way better coverage and final results

 

[mauricem00]

this sounds like an interesting experiment. please post a journal so we can follow your progress.

 

[Magic]

suplimental lighting spread out so the plant gets hit from all angles and hights just like outside , and you could run multiple lights on a few different timers to increase/decrease intensity

they way my rooms are built and lights are used/positioned i have light and reflective light bouncing around and hitting every square inch of my plants , even my floors are reflective

peace

p.s. its all about invironment , dont think we cant improve on outdoors , nature is great , but it isnt perfect and science has shown us what and where to make improvements , a common myth is to say outdoors is best

p.s.s. i run enough lights (wont go into that much detail) that to avoid one really big spike in electicity i have to use 8 timers and a secondary panel that has a built in timer , i have them all offset a bit so i avoid that big spike all at once , but my point is , environment is key , one big light is great for big tops , but in the long run 2 or more smaller lights give way better coverage and final results

Thanks bob looks like I will do that to see what happens. I have three lights so I will off them so they get 12 hours of peak lighting and 6 of low lighting. 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening.

 

[Epic Genetics]

Thanks bob looks like I will do that to see what happens. I have three lights so I will off them so they get 12 hours of peak lighting and 6 of low lighting. 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening.

honestly id leave em all going for full intense lighting , think of it this way , autos benefit greatly from the added hrs of light right , photo and auto plants will take what you throw at them and they will use it , dont scrimp on em

my offset timers are only minutes apart

you can over do the lighting , plants do in fact have a limit , i just dont remember specifics , it like say you throw 120,000 lumens at them , but they only use 100,000 of them

i highly doubt most of us reach or surpass that limit

peace

 

[medi]

dont think we cant improve on outdoors , nature is great , but it isnt perfect and science has shown us what and where to make improvements , a common myth is to say outdoors is best

An example is the fact that even though the sun puts out around 5K lumens at ground level, how much of that is expressed as heat, or green/yellow spectrum? When you whittle away all the non PAR/PPFD light what you're left with isn't all that much more, if at all, than what we have in our indoors grows.

edit: 5k Lumens is an average, and is per sq foot.