what kind of water are you using ?
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At first i soaked the hydroton in distilled water which was my mistake because i forgot to ph it befor hand and now my ph is always trying to creep up, but now i use Phd tap water backround ppm of 58 ppm and a normal ph of 6.8 so i ph it add my nutes and dump it over the hydroton
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Okay so two times in one day she flopped over layen on the hydroton kinda like her own lst hahah the leaves turned up toward the light and she was trying to thrive non the les, the stem is about the size of a toothpick (diameter and height) i started a very light fan breeze to stiffen her up a bit after again stackin hydroton to get her to stand up strait. Whats the solution to my problem, between this and the ph constantly climbing its im getting incredibly frustrated, a constant reminder of the 3.4 gallon airpot full of fox farm sitting nexto my tent and the photo bean i have on deck
Tap water?
do you know what is in your tap water?
if the ph is always swinging up it sounds like the water is high in bicarbs possibly from a sodium source which will do this to you rplants
this is also slightly problematic when using hydrotron or especially coco they will absorb and hold on to buildup
hydrotron will develope a scale on it as some have seen under theese conditions
Gotta look at the nutrients you are using
to give advise from that dir
do you know what is in your tap water?
if the ph is always swinging up it sounds like the water is high in bicarbs possibly from a sodium source which will do this to you rplants
this is also slightly problematic when using hydrotron or especially coco they will absorb and hold on to buildup
hydrotron will develope a scale on it as some have seen under theese conditions
Gotta look at the nutrients you are using
to give advise from that dir
look at ph as a teeter totter to visualize
on one side there are + hydrogen =cautions
on the other side there are - hydrogen=anions
through the exchange of theese are the reasons ph changes
if tooo many + are used for example ph rises because of the abundance of - atoms still present
bicarbs add - atoms and if enough + aren't introduced you will have a constant rise in ph
hope i made this long discussion sorta short and easier to understand
on one side there are + hydrogen =cautions
on the other side there are - hydrogen=anions
through the exchange of theese are the reasons ph changes
if tooo many + are used for example ph rises because of the abundance of - atoms still present
bicarbs add - atoms and if enough + aren't introduced you will have a constant rise in ph
hope i made this long discussion sorta short and easier to understand
do you have a plastic line running collecting drips from watter halo and dir it next to the baby ?
if so keep it around a inch away from the base it will get enough water till the plant is large enough to recieve water for the halo
if so keep it around a inch away from the base it will get enough water till the plant is large enough to recieve water for the halo
Thanks for the response im in desperate need of help here
What can i do to balance the + - atoms ?how do i manage bibcarbs? I am so sick of having to ph down in my res its such a pain in the ass and res changing / dumping phd water over the hydroton isnt helping much it just buys me some time, im starting to go crazy over this....and yeah the plastic is in a drip hole delivering water to the seedling and i constantly rotate from hole to hole to even things out root wise an inch or so away will do okay? Ill take a pic an throw it up can you tell me what you think? The roots are majority to the right, in the second picture yu see where im pointing? Thats where there heading kind of growing like this ---> \ <----- so im trying to get roots to grow toward the side that they arent lol what do you think ?Attachments
tap water could very well be the reason
don't get me wrong you will see wild fluctuation while using r/O and distilled until it has stabalized what ever you mixed into it
when you hear people saying the phrase buffering it really means something in the mix that breaks down slower and releases the + or - ions at a slower and restained rate instead of being all at once instantly available
i would atleast run tap water through a tap filter or a pitcher type filter till you get a swing for the ph swing and why it really happens
thw source water is the key
you can get online and check most local water sources if through municipal water and see the read out of what is in your water
but if you at least put half distilled water and then half tap and check the reading of the two you will see if it is from your water
did you add any cal/mag to the feed??
whatever the case your ph reading say you are adding too many anions in one form or another it is from water or nutrients or a bit of both
the series you are running for nutrients is a decient way but this is one issue faced because water source is dif everywhere even if exceptable to use it will always be dif
most nutrients are set up in ratios for R/O or distilled water and will have the proper amount w/in the mix or the addition of one of the ingredients if your water has a high concentration of dif things the important thing in the nutrients can't be used properly
don't get me wrong you will see wild fluctuation while using r/O and distilled until it has stabalized what ever you mixed into it
when you hear people saying the phrase buffering it really means something in the mix that breaks down slower and releases the + or - ions at a slower and restained rate instead of being all at once instantly available
i would atleast run tap water through a tap filter or a pitcher type filter till you get a swing for the ph swing and why it really happens
thw source water is the key
you can get online and check most local water sources if through municipal water and see the read out of what is in your water
but if you at least put half distilled water and then half tap and check the reading of the two you will see if it is from your water
did you add any cal/mag to the feed??
whatever the case your ph reading say you are adding too many anions in one form or another it is from water or nutrients or a bit of both
the series you are running for nutrients is a decient way but this is one issue faced because water source is dif everywhere even if exceptable to use it will always be dif
most nutrients are set up in ratios for R/O or distilled water and will have the proper amount w/in the mix or the addition of one of the ingredients if your water has a high concentration of dif things the important thing in the nutrients can't be used properly
Damn that was some solid info i truly appreciate you taking the time to explain in such detail, ill be sure to check whats coming through the tap im almost positive there is things like fluoride and stuff , im in southeast jersey. im going to switch to distilled water as its .88 cents a gallon, and ill be sure to check ppm before i add any ph down. I havent added any cal or mag yet i can easily do so but shes only just over a week old. So far i have the following nutes at 1/4 strength flora grow micro and bloom, also running sugardaddy from technaflora at 1/4 strength and then the ph down. My tap is coming in hot at a ph of 7 and ppm of about 58 on average. After nutes its at 215ppm and 5.8 but withing two hours its up to 6.1
flouride is toxic to plants and will kill them over time
and us also
it can be removed by a filter easy enough though
and on that note if you are in a chlorine area it will disipate after bubbling or sitting for a few hours
but some places use a form of chlorine that doesn't disipate the same and really needs to be revomed w/ a filter to be usable
and us also
it can be removed by a filter easy enough though
and on that note if you are in a chlorine area it will disipate after bubbling or sitting for a few hours
but some places use a form of chlorine that doesn't disipate the same and really needs to be revomed w/ a filter to be usable
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