Grow Mediums Nutes, use vendor chart or mix your own?

[puggle6]

I guess apart from maybe a few standouts it's like fishing lures catching more fisherman than fish!



Floralichious seems to be helping a more lush and smelly/oily plant for me but might change out the other 2.

Anyone else mixing and matching?

 

[Olde School Player]

Yep Diamond Nectar and KoolBloom were the first two supplements I started using. And for what we pay they are ALL expensive. $110USD +- for a gallon each of my GH Flora three part. I use them because I've always used them, going waaay back to my outdoor days. And I think it's cool they have been used on the International Space Station.
I don't like AN either, absolutely nothing to do with the nutes, believe they are a great product. But I take huge exception to the loud mouthed smart assed owner who blasted all kinds of bullshit about other vendors, most notably Gen. Hydro. Some of the shit that man said in their formative years would have started bar fights where I came from. And if there's one thing I can't stand it's a loud mouthed smartass. I'll never do business with them no matter how good his product.
Simple truth is for a handful of dollars we could make our own nutes if only we had the education and time. So I take 90% of all nutrient vendor claims with a grain of salt and keep using the product because (a) I am intimately familiar with it and (b) it has never let me down.
When I first started hydro, I ran Gen. Hydro for a couple of years with no ec/ppm or pH meter - just a drip bottle of pH reagent - and I never once had a crop fail. If pH dropped I figured the mix was too strong so I would start diluting. Sure, I got some nute burn, but I also got a 42oz yield of one crop under a single 600W HID lamp (with a little help from a spider mite infestation that stressed the piss out of my grow) and it was bad assed smoke. I had some Rastafarians in Cincinnati begging me for the stuff every couple of months.
Just for shits grins and giggles, one of these days I'm going to buy a couple of bags of Gen. Hydro's Maxi dry. You can get a 2.2 (one kilo) bag of grow and a 2.2 pound bag of bloom for $34USD total / both, not each. I have a sneaky suspicion that yield would not be that far off compared to my current twelve part expert recirculating regimen.
But then I would not get the joy of playing Mad Scientists with all my meters and syringes and other fancy grow shit!!! Some of the crap I do just because it's fun.

 

[puggle6]

Speaking of diy nutes @Olde School Player

I have a plan to make my own, time and area poor at the moment but I started this thread to get things down rather than on scraps of paper and in my head!

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/diy-bioreactor-brewer.64179/

Last month I visited a nute company I've had discussions with in the past to try and get a good look at their operation, unfortunately I didn't get to see their Brewers just their bulk handling equipment. I did a bit of a search and there are like a dozen fert companies in the same area!!

It can't be to difficult if every man and his dog with a factory and a supply contract is doing it!

Just a matter of education myself a bit more and building the thing!


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[Olde School Player]

Yep, agreed. A chemistry degree would help too, but I hated that subject. I'll have to bookmark that one & come back to it soon. Sounds very interesting.

 

[MedGrower]

It has always worked for me to simply not follow the schedule given (as only schedule I follow is what the readings and the plant tell me) but to follow the ratios of the schedule to have each element more or less in balance.

Good reputable nutrient companies know their stuff but what they cannot know is what, where and how you are growing.

BTW, Remo's schedule is almost dead on with DWC. I found I had to reduce it just a little to make it work but I was impressed how well it worked right off the bat

 

[puggle6]

It has always worked for me to simply not follow the schedule given (as only schedule I follow is what the readings and the plant tell me) but to follow the ratios of the schedule to have each element more or less in balance.

Good reputable nutrient companies know their stuff but what they cannot know is what, where and how you are growing.

BTW, Remo's schedule is almost dead on with DWC. I found I had to reduce it just a little to make it work but I was impressed how well it worked right off the bat

It's a weirdo thing..

Like you I'm a plant whisperr.. I feel lucky I guess when I see some well thought out grows go sideways!

Best advise is to keep it simple!?
Well I think so. Newbs nailing 1+ gpw will come! (Pretty easy now!)

 

[Muddy]

If you're interested in mixing your own nutes you should check out this site: https://manicbotanix.com/#. It's an excellent hydro site in general and has a lot of specific information about mixing and measuring your concentrations in solution. The owner of the site makes and markets his own nutrient line in Australia. The site isn't the easiest to use as the owner has it set up so that you can't copy or print from it and it doesn't have a search. Even still, it's worth spending some time there and taking some notes. I've learned a ton there.