Ocean Forest OR Happy Frog???

[Nverinder716]

I’ve used both, but I have noticed signs of nitrogen toxicity in ALL of my autoflowers grown in OCEAN FOREST. What else bothers me is that all of my FFOF grows have been fem seeds (confirmed sex at 3-4 week) and every. damn. one of them went herm. There have been other random stresses as well, no doubt, but the only consistent thing is the FFOF.

On the other hand, last year I grew in HAPPY FROG and (aside from nute burn, which I assume responsibility for while adding Fox Farm’s Triolikely incorrectly), I had two successful, if rather short plants.

What do you prefer (these brands or others!)? Do you make your own soil (considering a “mr. canucks” style soil with the best comparable amendments I can find in thenUS)? As always, any advice, comments or conversation is welcome and appreciated!!!

(attaching some of my grows just for fun)

 

[Lil Dab]

I’ve used both, but I have noticed signs of nitrogen toxicity in ALL of my autoflowers grown in OCEAN FOREST. What else bothers me is that all of my FFOF grows have been fem seeds (confirmed sex at 3-4 week) and every. damn. one of them went herm. There have been other random stresses as well, no doubt, but the only consistent thing is the FFOF.

On the other hand, last year I grew in HAPPY FROG and (aside from nute burn, which I assume responsibility for while adding Fox Farm’s Triolikely incorrectly), I had two successful, if rather short plants.

What do you prefer (these brands or others!)? Do you make your own soil (considering a “mr. canucks” style soil with the best comparable amendments I can find in thenUS)? As always, any advice, comments or conversation is welcome and appreciated!!!

(attaching some of my grows just for fun)
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I would agree that FFOF is too hot for auto's it can be grown in but best be careful IMPE IF I had to choose between the two I would choose FFHF.... BUT I have switched coast of Maine Stonington blend and have been having good success following their top dress schedule for auto's pretty simple but like anything it is as easy as you make it

 

[mr jones15]

https://www.kisorganics.com/products/kis-organics-biochar-soil-mix

 

[Nverinder716]

I would agree that FFOF is too hot for auto's it can be grown in but best be careful IMPE IF I had to choose between the two I would choose FFHF.... BUT I have switched coast of Maine Stonington blend and have been having good success following their top dress schedule for auto's pretty simple but like anything it is as easy as you make it

Thank you!!! I will definitely look into the Maine Stonington.

 

[Nverinder716]

https://www.kisorganics.com/products/kis-organics-biochar-soil-mix

Looks like good stuff, but more interesting is the NPK - looks almost identical to FFHF!!! Thanks for the recommend!

 

[2budz]

I've been using HF for a year with pretty good luck. But, I have had bug problems in every pot of HF. I ran some coco loco this round and not a single bug. I'm looking for something else similar to HF minus the bugs. Mother Earth Terracraft looks pretty good and close to HF.

 

[nizmoKush]

Coast of Maine stonington blend is what I used and for amendments I go super simple, buildasoil craftblend and buildaflower, dynomyco at the begging and recharger every 2 weeks(just started doing this). Some pots have worms others don’t. Oh and some quillaja 20 from BaS

 

[Nverinder716]

I've been using HF for a year with pretty good luck. But, I have had bug problems in every pot of HF. I ran some coco loco this round and not a single bug. I'm looking for something else similar to HF minus the bugs. Mother Earth Terracraft looks pretty good and close to HF.

Do you think the bugs were actually bagged in with the soil, or something in it was attracting them? I remember having fungus gnats to deal with in my first few grows with HF, but they were my first grows EVER after VA went green and I massacred a lot of plats with overwatering, lol

 

[2budz]

Do you think the bugs were actually bagged in with the soil, or something in it was attracting them? I remember having fungus gnats to deal with in my first few grows with HF, but they were my first grows EVER after VA went green and I massacred a lot of plats with overwatering, lol

definitely in the bags. Not sure if they’re coming from the factory or the place I get the bags. They’re stored outside where I buy them so they could get in the bags there.

 

[Nverinder716]

Something I've noticed now that I'm looking closer at this: the NPK shown on bags of OF and HF really aren't that dissimilar, but they definitely show that OF is just slightly higher in Nitrogen than OF. More interesting? HF has a full complement of mycorrhizae blended in, whereas OF doesn't list or mention any that I've found....