:( <====plants look like this

I dont mean to come off harsh..it just sucks failing all the time and everytime I go in with high hopes and positive thinking and still..I dont know if I should take a break from everything I feel like giving up sometimes starting to hate myself bbecause im not use to failing time after time after time it messes with you mentally.
 
Cosa.. I know the feeling of frustration all too well. Have you being given a bad advice on this forum or made fun off or trolled? I wouldn't think so. Autoflower.net has always been a kind and warm forum specially for newcomers, in my experience. I am sorry if you've experienced bad stuff from people elsewhere but lets not bring it here! :bighug:

Tell you what; Start a new grow and make a grow diary, document everything and take pics. People here are glad to help you and guide you to success.

I wish I could help you but like I said my experience is mostly on DWC and not soil grows so I feel I might not be giving you best informed advice due to lack of experience.
 
from your first post and the pic's,i think you fed them to early. and ph your water a little higher, now I am not supposed to respond here, but it looks that simple to me.:2cents::goodluck:
 
Cosa brother, take a few deep breaths and step back for a second. Most of us have been where you are at, it's completely fine and certainly not worth getting angry and despondent. You are in the right place for help and support!

Why not head over to the Live Help Thread and get one of the guys there to help you out. Take is slowly, explain in detail what your setup is and where you are at. I'm sure you will get the help you need to get off to a flying start.

Certainly looks like a pH issue to me. Here is a link to the help thread.

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/...-by-afn-staff-only.30723/page-562#post-905468


Good luck, :karmacloud::karmacloud:
 
Thanks guys I was feeling really low and after reading that made me feel alot better. Will figure something out. And make a diary and stuff. I think I just need a break and to regroup get back to the normal me and start again. Will be back and will prepare mentally, physically and emotionally this time around..just need some time off
 
Hey Cosa, stick in there buddy. It'll happen for you. I'm glad you're back. Some good advice here. The consensus of these posts in my opinion is pH. I had this problem early on, though not to the extreme you're experiencing. It motivated my move to Advanced nutrients Sensi line with pH perfect technology, as well as the promix. I've pretty much been able to eliminate pH swings and anymore, I rarely even bother to check it. It's always 6.5, right in the sweet spot for absorption of pretty much all the nutes you're plants are going to need for their entire life cycle. FWITW I work in a chem plant batch mixing chemicals 25000 gal to a tank. Theres 3 tanks at my station and I fill and drain them twice a shift. I wear TyChem every day. Serious work done with a serious attitude, very very industrial. So consider my move to AN as a pretty high recommend. My best successes have come from using their line of products. Next up is temperature. Just like pH, temperature has a sweet spot for maximum availability of nutrients. The 80 degrees you mentioned is dancing with the devil. Get it down to 72-75. I had to buy an air conditioner this summer to get me there, but once it was in the space, I put temp problems in the rearview mirror. Beyond that, humidity is a concern, but a bit more slippery as RH is the result of several factors, some beyond a growers control. Like the 10 days of heavy rain I experienced in my region last month just as I entered the last phase of flowering. RH went into the high 60s and even some low 70s toward the end of it and growth suffered. At RHs of 80 plus, a plant's stoma close and it cannot breathe, affecting photosyntheseis (metabolism). They are literally choking to death and deterioration of a plant's health is rapid. I've experienced that too, and despite my best efforts at recovery, wrote off two beautiful plants that I had vegged for 3 months. But if you're temps are good, RH should at least be manageable. Beware of overwatering. It will drive up RH in your space. I never water to runoff for this reason, except when I flush. Now I've recommended a fresh start. What seeds do you have available? In the beginnining I had a small checklist for strains. First, use an established company (Dinafem and Dutch Passion jump to mind) that is well documented with journals and grow reports. Stable and homogenous are the watchwords here. Not the time to chase the latest trend or fad. Second pick something that suits your growroom, small space=smaller plants, as well as your grow style. Avoid crowding also. Be aware of what size they will require when finished. In a straight up and down grow, without training methods, most plants stretch to between 3-5 feet. LST is an excellent technique for limiting size and pushing yields up. Avoid doing the multistrain as well as trying to manage multiple timelines/feed schadules. I would look for something fast also, 8-10 weekers seed to weed, as less time growing leaves less time for mistakes.
So recharge your batteries my friend and consider the advice given. Very little original thought here as my "style" is simply the result of copying the success of others. And a shit ton of reading, LOL. You would do well doing the same. It's the reason I'm here and the reason I keep coming back. Life is tough, be tougher. If you can keep your head while all about you others are losing theirs...(Rudyard Kipling). Wishing you well buddy, Smoke em if you got em.
 
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Hey Cosa, stick in there buddy. It'll happen for you. I'm glad you're back. Some good advice here. The consensus of these posts in my opinion is pH. I had this problem early on, though not to the extreme you're experiencing. It motivated my move to Advanced nutrients Sensi line with pH perfect technology, as well as the promix. I've pretty much been able to eliminate pH swings and anymore, I rarely even bother to check it. It's always 6.5, right in the sweet spot for absorption of pretty much all the nutes you're plants are going to need for their entire life cycle. FWITW I work in a chem plant batch mixing chemicals 25000 gal to a tank. Theres 3 tanks at my station and I fill and drain them twice a shift. I wear TyChem every day. Serious work done with a serious attitude, very very industrial. So consider my move to AN as a pretty high recommend. My best successes have come from using their line of products. Next up is temperature. Just like pH, temperature has a sweet spot for maximum availability of nutrients. The 80 degrees you mentioned is dancing with the devil. Get it down to 72-75. I had to buy an air conditioner this summer to get me there, but once it was in the space, I put temp problems in the rearview mirror. Beyond that, humidity is a concern, but a bit more slippery as RH is the result of several factors, some beyond a growers control. Like the 10 days of heavy rain I experienced in my region last month just as I entered the last phase of flowering. RH went into the high 60s and even some low 70s toward the end of it and growth suffered. At RHs of 80 plus, a plant's stoma close and it cannot breathe, affecting photosyntheseis (metabolism). They are literally choking to death and deterioration of a plant's health is rapid. I've experienced that too, and despite my best efforts at recovery, wrote off two beautiful plants that I had vegged for 3 months. But if you're temps are good, RH should at least be manageable. Beware of overwatering. It will drive up RH in your space. I never water to runoff for this reason, except when I flush. Now I've recommended a fresh start. What seeds do you have available? In the beginnining I had a small checklist for strains. First, use an established company (Dinafem and Dutch Passion jump to mind) that is well documented with journals and grow reports. Stable and homogenous are the watchwords here. Not the time to chase the latest trend or fad. Second pick something that suits your growroom, small space=smaller plants, as well as your grow style. Avoid crowding also. Be aware of what size they will require when finished. In a straight up and down grow, without training methods, most plants stretch to between 3-5 feet. LST is an excellent technique for limiting size and pushing yields up. Avoid doing the multistrain as well as trying to manage multiple timelines/feed schadules. I would look for something fast also, 8-10 weekers seed to weed, as less time growing leaves less time for mistakes.
So recharge your batteries my friend and consider the advice given. Very little original thought here as my "style" is simply the result of copying the success of others. And a shit ton of reading, LOL. You would do well doing the same. It's the reason I'm here and the reason I keep coming back. Life is tough, be tougher. If you can keep your head while all about you others are losing theirs...(Rudyard Kipling). Wishing you well buddy, Smoke em if you got em.
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Thanks man..I have the advance line of nutes and promix hp I just came from a htdro store where I start aaking for help on my "tomato plants" he start staeing to start in smaller containers and then transplant but I told him I can not transplant I have to start wirh the pot its in start to finish..he then asked me..is it autoflower? I said yes I dealt with this guy alot to buy supplies..I made sure I was not being tailed after I left..he recomended the rx line of nutes and told me not to kill the plants..he said advanced nutes with an inexperienced grower as my self to stay away and but the rx line of nutes and acouple other things witch willrun me around 150 for everything he recommended he said not to throw away my extta 30lbs promix hp left stateing its a good medium not to waste my money and buy another since initially I bought a 60 lb vail ofIit I have about 30 lbs left and was thinking just to disguatd it and buy a 60 lb of something else..what do tou guys think? Should I go buy the rx line and stop using my advance nutes until I get better?
 
Im ssorry for typos im ttping from my cell right now and am in stop and go ttaffic
 
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