ok a up date on the seeds from my hermi they did not become autos I had them under 20x4 for 57 days with no signs of going into bud swithed her to 12x12 and we have some little white crewcuts yep she gone into bud and didn't have much of a stretch but if all goes well ive got 20 or so hand grenade size buds comeing my way if shes anything even close to her mom I had real good luck with the moms fastbud auto gorilla glue [HASHTAG]#4[/HASHTAG]