simple but effective amended coco/perlite recipe for autopots based on ratios?

[lunarman]

Looking for a good organic recipe that is based on amended coco medium that I'll be using in my first go around in autopots. Would like to just have the res contain water, not feed. And I'd like the recipe in terms of ratios. Most if not all recipes I saw seem to be large quantities that I can't mix up as it would be way too much. I will be using 4 autopots each at 4 gallons capacity. So that's like 15 gallons max.

I have locally sourced composted manure and EWC and coco and perlite in hand already. Would like to build on that. I do have access to grow shops that focus mostly on synthetic nutes but they do have some some organic products.

I have about 4 weeks to mix this up and cook it for a bit. Then I'll be growing with it.

 

[GrOwMeSoMeNuGs]

I am looking at doing something similar and also going with 4 - 4 gallon autopots on my next grow. After talking via email with Tad Hussey (search the web for kis organics) he said that you don't want to use coco for several reasons which I don't remember but he assured me I want to use peat. If you check YouTube for his videos, you will see why I trust the guy. He knows his shit.

 

[lunarman]

@GrOwMeSoMeNuGs

I'm going to stick with coco as the substrate medium. Not going to do peat. Not now anyway. Maybe later after I played around with coco a lot. There are lots of people that know their shit and swear by coco. Or vice versa.

What I am more focused on is the organics part of the mix. Substrate is not as important to me right now. And I have a lot of coco on hand but no peat.

 

[GrOwMeSoMeNuGs]

I know someone is or has done organic coco in here because I remember seeing it. If I come across someone who can help, I'll point them over here.

 

[bushmasterar15]

Might want to pop over to the Autopot section of the forum http://www.autoflower.org/forums/autopot-growing.329/ and check some of the grow journals. I know @pop22 has an organic soil grow going in Autopots now. There are a few others using BioTabs or the Mephisto Super Soil mix in their Autopots so you'd basically have a water only setup with those.

 

[pop22]

Here's my thread on organic soil for begginers, this should help.

Looking for a good organic recipe that is based on amended coco medium that I'll be using in my first go around in autopots. Would like to just have the res contain water, not feed. And I'd like the recipe in terms of ratios. Most if not all recipes I saw seem to be large quantities that I can't mix up as it would be way too much. I will be using 4 autopots each at 4 gallons capacity. So that's like 15 gallons max.

I have locally sourced composted manure and EWC and coco and perlite in hand already. Would like to build on that. I do have access to grow shops that focus mostly on synthetic nutes but they do have some some organic products.

I have about 4 weeks to mix this up and cook it for a bit. Then I'll be growing with it.

 

[pop22]

Sorry, but I've done enough grows and there is enough science out there to disprove that myth before it even starts! Coc is a superior addition to soil vs peat. It had a higher CEC ( means it can adsorb more nutirent ions ), its almost PH neutral vs low ph for peat, and, it's a renewable resource peat is not, it takes hundreds of years to grow a peat bog.
and I know my shit and back it with science!

I am looking at doing something similar and also going with 4 - 4 gallon autopots on my next grow. After talking via email with Tad Hussey (search the web for kis organics) he said that you don't want to use coco for several reasons which I don't remember but he assured me I want to use peat. If you check YouTube for his videos, you will see why I trust the guy. He knows his shit.

 

[GrOwMeSoMeNuGs]

Sorry, but I've done enough grows and there is enough science out there to disprove that myth before it even starts! Coc is a superior addition to soil vs peat. It had a higher CEC ( means it can adsorb more nutirent ions ), its almost PH neutral vs low ph for peat, and, it's a renewable resource peat is not, it takes hundreds of years to grow a peat bog.
and I know my shit and back it with science!

Don't kill the messenger.

https://www.kisorganics.com/blogs/news/99806785-peat-vs-coco

 

[pop22]

Sorry, didn't mean to sound that way! I do dispute some of his other claims, ie the organisms in peat. What organisms survive in dried peat? if there were so, why does Promix add them to their pro peat? And even if true, whats to say they are beneficial to your plant, I prefer to ad add own. Salt in your coco? Yeah, the cheap stuff might be, but brand name coco coir is ready to go. I use Bontanicare and they advise NOT to rinse their coco, as they've added buffers to it. Peat works for sure, but the renewability issue stopped me from using it, why do so when a renewable resource is available. I take issue with the energy cost also, how many MILLIONS of pounds freight are loaded on a container ship per trip? shipping via the sea is the cheapest , least fuel consuming method. And they use heavy machinery to harvest bogs..

it is a bit more expensive than peat however.

Don't kill the messenger.

https://www.kisorganics.com/blogs/news/99806785-peat-vs-coco

 

[GrOwMeSoMeNuGs]

Sorry, didn't mean to sound that way! I do dispute some of his other claims, ie the organisms in peat. What organisms survive in dried peat? if there were so, why does Promix add them to their pro peat? And even if true, whats to say they are beneficial to your plant, I prefer to ad add own. Salt in your coco? Yeah, the cheap stuff might be, but brand name coco coir is ready to go. I use Bontanicare and they advise NOT to rinse their coco, as they've added buffers to it. Peat works for sure, but the renewability issue stopped me from using it, why do so when a renewable resource is available. I take issue with the energy cost also, how many MILLIONS of pounds freight are loaded on a container ship per trip? shipping via the sea is the cheapest , least fuel consuming method. And they use heavy machinery to harvest bogs..

it is a bit more expensive than peat however.

I have seen your grows and don't doing your experience