@Hippy_BiotabsF70 Oh yeah well in that case, haha, I'm paying ~$15.00 US-dollars per seed, some times a dollar less. But I know 4 gallons is 15L but they dont make a 4 gallon air pot, it's either 3 gallon, or 5 gallon, unless Europe has 4 gallon size pots. I did an Auto-Ultimate, and it failed my standards to keep the story short. Didn't even break 1oz. I think angled lights gets more coverage to lower canopy, if you have 1 light you can't penetrate below the leaves, where diagonal you kind of can, and that helps a lot, it gives better distance from light to buds as well, making it more even, instead of just focused on the main cola. The lights diagonal also sort of overlaps right over the plant. I hope to try again though, Auto-Ultimate shouldn't of failed me.
Can anyone tell me how many watts @TaNg uses "per plant"? Not "actual watts drawn" which LED's draw about ~50% their rated watts. My 400w LED should draw between 200- 250 watts. I read sometimes he uses 1x 75w per plant, sometimes 300w per plant, so which is it? Is TaNg's 75w lights 75w rated, or 75w actual draw, and more like 150w each?
Can anyone tell me how many watts @TaNg uses "per plant"? Not "actual watts drawn" which LED's draw about ~50% their rated watts. My 400w LED should draw between 200- 250 watts. I read sometimes he uses 1x 75w per plant, sometimes 300w per plant, so which is it? Is TaNg's 75w lights 75w rated, or 75w actual draw, and more like 150w each?
You should get umol/s or at least PAR W to compare lights.
Let's say your 400W light draws 200W, but plants are getting 60 PAR W (if light is 30% efficient, like HPS). 140W is pure heat.
My light draws 200W and plants are getting 140 PAR W. 60W is pure heat.
Can anyone tell me how many watts @TaNg uses "per plant"? Not "actual watts drawn" which LED's draw about ~50% their rated watts. My 400w LED should draw between 200- 250 watts. I read sometimes he uses 1x 75w per plant, sometimes 300w per plant, so which is it? Is TaNg's 75w lights 75w rated, or 75w actual draw, and more like 150w each?
Go and read up on different lights and then the diy lighting section mate. Then you will understand how it all works. Someone telling you how many “watts” he’s using is meaningless unless you understand wall watts, par watts, efficiency etc.
@Hippy_BiotabsF70@KonopCh I saw this guy using Viparspectra LEDs or what not, and they are semi-cheaper, and a lot of people think bad of them, but his pictures, and yields say otherwise, though his 5x5 has 1x 1200w, 1x 900w, and 1x 300w or something, which is more than I want to use. I saw this sweet Phlizon 1200w though, that says it pulls actual 280w, and has the highest par/lumen output, and its cheap, $130 US-dollars, I think I might roll the dice, and check it out. Hoping it can do 2x full grown autos, and 2 seeds started ~35 days after the first 2 for perpetual.
@Hippy_BiotabsF70@KonopCh I saw this sweet Phlizon 1200w though, that says it pulls actual 280w, and has the highest par/lumen output, and its cheap, $130 US-dollars, I think I might roll the dice, and check it out.
@KonopCh Right, well I'm stuck with my 400w Apollo, and a 3ft x 3ft x 6ft for at least a little while. I also can't get Grow Northern lights, or Plagron. My setup I'm thinking of is in my signature links, you might like something you read if you're bored for a minute thanks for the advice guys though it helps, and helps motivate me to read some more, and compare to people, like TaNg, who have consistent results. I must! achieve that 200g per plant.
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