Well. Things are going downhill fast

[Wallflower82]

They’re in fox farm soil / perlite being fed distilled water with 1tsp calimagic / gallon and 4g megacrop / gallon

 

[Wallflower82]

If I can turn them around I’m all ears because from what I can see, this is not good. The leaves on the first plant in the first pic, are twisting and clawing & donig some really weird shit .. more so now than they were in the picture, they appear to be getting worse fairly quickly. They were fed 1tsp calimagic and 4g megacrop/ gallon and the ph going in was 6.6 , runoff was about 6.5

I fed to runoff and noticed they really didn’t take as much water as I thought they should. It’s been extremely cold ere too, I don’t know if I’m seeing that ... or what. Temps were at 60 degrees over night and for a couple days. i raised temps to about 71 and they’ve been steady around there since they were watered & fed yesterday. They look so miserable And droopy that I don’t know If they’re gonna survive long enough for the soil probe to get here

 

[Waira]

-- Yes Fuxfarms soils are swag anymore,.. look into Roots Organics soils or Royal Gold King's Mix.....
-- OK, MC is part to blame here, despite what they say, many growers here found that the MC alone doesn't cut it, too much N, not enough P for bloom stage,... many reduce the MC in favor of a PK booster of some type, something with little to no N, high P and K,.. Bud Explosion is an example, but that's very K biased, not the best for early/mid bloom IMO,.. more P is needed and that ratio is not the best,... look into a PK booster,... I think some of that leaf curl is N-toxicity,....
-- pH is OK, but all the flushing, saturated soil seems to have caused some droops/leaf curl which is from the roots being O2 starved by the soaked soil,..
-- get the temps up day and night more if you can, low T retards nute transport,.... let the pots dry more now too,...the droops and curling likely won't correct, but that's not an issue,.. buds seem to be building OK, and shitty looking fans at the end are not uncommon,....
-- what pH probe did you get, Accuraye 8 or a pro' model type with an electrode bulb like meters have?

 

[Wallflower82]

-- Yes Fuxfarms soils are swag anymore,.. look into Roots Organics soils or Royal Gold King's Mix.....
-- OK, MC is part to blame here, despite what they say, many growers here found that the MC alone doesn't cut it, too much N, not enough P for bloom stage,... many reduce the MC in favor of a PK booster of some type, something with little to no N, high P and K,.. Bud Explosion is an example, but that's very K biased, not the best for early/mid bloom IMO,.. more P is needed and that ratio is not the best,... look into a PK booster,... I think some of that leaf curl is N-toxicity,....
-- pH is OK, but all the flushing, saturated soil seems to have caused some droops/leaf curl which is from the roots being O2 starved by the soaked soil,..
-- get the temps up day and night more if you can, low T retards nute transport,.... let the pots dry more now too,...the droops and curling likely won't correct, but that's not an issue,.. buds seem to be building OK, and shitty looking fans at the end are not uncommon,....
-- what pH probe did you get, Accuraye 8 or a pro' model type with an electrode bulb like meters have?

So the plant with the serious claw and dying leaves is the girlscout who is furthest along... I took off most of the dead fan levels and a new round will be joining them.. these leaves are doing the same shrivel that the others did.. gosh I don’t know if this plants gonna cross the finish line in time. The first photos are of that one...

The second plant is the larger more sativa pheno gsc that’s a week or so behind the other gsc developmentally.. they were started around the same time but are very different plants. I haven’t seen any claw on this just nute burn and slight deficiency pop up from time to time but it seems the least upset out of the three. It has always had long curly stringy leaves but seems to grow anyways. There’s some photos of her

The youngest is the blue amnesia who looked beautiful and has been the least fussy until this week... now that she’s switched into flower mode she looks sadder everyday and I don’t know if she’s gonna be alive much longer..

Yes Waira I got the accurate 8 probe.. I couldn’t help but notice you’ve recommended it to many a grower.. unfortunately it’s taking so long to get to me and doesn’t look like I will have it until Wednesday of next week... right now I haven’t fed flushed or anything with these girls... I just don’t know what’s wrong with them

I had planned on picking up sweet candy and bud explosion but just haven’t been able to because money is too tight.. I don’t get how all these people are using megacrop by itself with such great results, I honestly don’t know if I’m even going to attempt autos again after this

 

[Wallflower82]

Do these girls look improved at all? The blue amnesia doesn’t seem to be as droopy but I still have a lot of dying leaves. Mostly on the smaller GSC & a lot of huge fan leaves on the blue amnesia. Is it better to let dead or dying leaves stay connected to the plant until they fall off on their own or should I take them off once they’re passed that point of no return? Well here’s some updated pictures, they aren’t dead yet and I wanna say they look a bit better today but I don’t wanna jinx it. The pots have dried out a fair bit, the smaller one will probably need more water... anyways... does anyone have any advice for me on how much I should feed them given their precarious state & signs of n-toxicity? I could withhold the megacrop completely or maybe cut it down to a gram or two per gallon... I def wanna still add the tsp of calimagic/gallon because they’re under autocobs

 

[Wallflower82]

I just wanted to bump this because they’re still looking terrible... I’m seeing bright orange on some of the lower leaves now, seems to be appearing higher up now too. It doesn’t rub off or come off, it’s like a terra cotta bright orange. I’ve seen it before a long time ago with some photos I grew but I never knew what it was, if it was fungus I feel like it would come off?

Anyways I know people are busy with holidays right now but I really don’t want these plants to die , we made it this far

 

[DTOM420]

I just wanted to bump this because they’re still looking terrible... I’m seeing bright orange on some of the lower leaves now, seems to be appearing higher up now too. It doesn’t rub off or come off, it’s like a terra cotta bright orange. I’ve seen it before a long time ago with some photos I grew but I never knew what it was, if it was fungus I feel like it would come off?

Anyways I know people are busy with holidays right now but I really don’t want these plants to die , we made it this far

Ok, they’re not going to die. There’s a big jump from not thriving to flat out dying. Relax, my brother! The last pix you posted don’t look that bad. Hard to say what that orange is, especially without pix. A quick google search reveals orange on cannabis leaves is most typically a light burn but can also indicate a potassium deficiency, K deficiency caused by pH lockout or even thrip damage. Hrmmm....sounds a lot like the diagnosis posted by Dr Cannabis, @Waira . Imagine that!! Lol! I have NO idea what the issue is but I’m pretty certain your plants are not going to be dying any time soon. You may not get the utmost potential out of those plants but you’re gonna get some smoke. So, quit worrying that they’re going to die; as if you sprayed them with roundup. Lol!

Until your pH probe gets there, it doesn’t sound like you can do a whole lot. You need information before more definitive diagnosis can be made by the experts. Don’t over-water them either. It sure sounds like you’re going to be needing some PK booster so it’d probably be better to focus your energy on how to get some rather than fretting constantly over those plants. It’s important to remember that, aside from (maybe) watering issues, results are slow to express themselves. Meaning: when you do something to your plants, like feeding them, you may not see any results for a while.

Smoke a joint and chillax a bit and it’ll all work out, brother!

Hope this helps!

 

[Wallflower82]

Hey @DTOM420 , that does help, a lot! Im just getting super worried because one of them really doesn’t have many fan leaves left to lose and the other 1, the blue amnesia, is losing fan leaves really fast from the bottom and going up now, and it’s crossed the half way point on the plant. It’s totally dried out now but still the droopier of the bunch. That’s the one I really think could die, she’s the youngest of those three and she just now started preflowers and throwing some hairs out... at the rate she’s losing green and how long she has yet to flower, yeah doesn’t look good. And she was the biggest of the 3 despite being the youngest

I’ll get some pictures up by morning... only 1 plant is showing the orange spots I really don’t think it’s rust mold.. it’s only effecting those main fan leaves and only at the leaf point area. It is on all of the lower fan leaves tho. It doesn’t appear to be acting like mold though

 

[Wallflower82]

This plant is the Girl Scout cookie who seems furthest ahead, she’s the one with the weird orange brown on the leaves and she’s lost most of her fans

 

[Wallflower82]

View attachment 988087 View attachment 988088 View attachment 988089 View attachment 988090 View attachment 988091 View attachment 988092 The next few pics are the more sativa Girl Scout cookie who is a little behind the other in flower. She seems to be the least pissed of the three, and the last few pics of the droopy looking plant that hasn’t started flowering much yet is the one that’s the youngest and has the longest to go. It’s losing fan leaves pretty quick and I just can’t figure out why she’s so droopy, her pot is almost completely dry too.

There’s shot of all 3 because for some reason when I post pictures they’re all out of order. I h Pe it isn’t too hard to tell who is who.

They’re all pretty dry and probably need water soon but I’ve been waiting on the ph probe (be here Tuesday) along with the PK they need, also arriving Tuesday, I don’t know if they can wait until Tuesday though