New Grower What is "missing" in autoflowers?

I have heard some say that the complexity and nuance of the high is lower with autos than photoperiods. Some find they have more interesting and complex mental states with a photo than an auto. I have had a 5 months herb break due to panic attacks from eating herb. now I have a vape and I am taking it easy and slow. I had some Auto Wappa thats been curing 7 months.... yum yum beautiful taste and thank god I had a little wobble and got a little paniccy but got through it in 10 mins or so. Vaping allows you to control the dose better. Eating has always been a nightmare and once you ate it there is no going back you have to take the full load and sometiems it is too much.

I look forwards to compare Photo Wappa (very strong for me) and Auto Wappa (somewhat weaker but not sure by how much yet cause I have changed methods of ingestion I would guess 25-35pct weaker roughly) It is a good topic to start and of value because the more we can report back the better auto's will get, surely.

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That is exactly what i feel. The are some complexity and nuance the first few days in autos for me, no where close to the best photos tho but after the first days almost all of that is gone and i just get stoned.

Thats what i mean with "what is missing in autos".

I really dont care about potancy, the most impotant thing for me is complexity and nuance in the high and no tolerance build up and to get rid of all hangover feelings the next morning.

Justin
 
i myself am allergic Smithiano, not as bad as some of the people in that thread, but mostly to freshly cut canna. im allergic to anything freshly cut, all plants give off and hormone that drives my sinus crazy.
 
I gave a buddy of mine a half pound to get rid of for me. Master kush photo, Super skunk photo, and some Low rider auto. He said the low rider only kept him high for about 20 minutes. He loved the photo though. Just thought I would mention that.
 
i myself am allergic Smithiano, not as bad as some of the people in that thread, but mostly to freshly cut canna. im allergic to anything freshly cut, all plants give off and hormone that drives my sinus crazy.

I too have a few sensitivities. Some cats, horse hair, alcohol (notice when I use rubbing alcohol my breathing seems constricted if I get my nose in it). Lawn grass must get you when freshly cut. Not much real grass where I live most go xeroscape. However, I remember as a kid sneezing when cutting the lawn.

Surprisingly, I have not had any reactions I am aware of when cutting canna etc. Even though it does have a distinct grassy smell for a few days while drying. Funny--when I do sneeze (live in dusty area) I think--oh no my plants flipped and that is the pollen getting me. And in one particular grow--may have been the case--who knows.

I gave a buddy of mine a half pound to get rid of for me. Master kush photo, Super skunk photo, and some Low rider auto. He said the low rider only kept him high for about 20 minutes. He loved the photo though. Just thought I would mention that.

That could be the case. The regular low ryder (not crossed) would be less intense than photos--for sure.

I suppose I have had what appears to be a tolerance issue with my last grow. Not sure if it is a grow/ripening/cure issue. They are photos. So going to use bud as a cushion for hash in vaporizer and see if it improves the effect. Looking for a Ti Pad deal.

Do you all think tolerance is more pronounced if one smokes or vapes.
 
Tolerance also relates to delivery method as well CGS.. I usually switch back and forth between the vape, bowl, bongs, and J's every week. Also when vaping lower temps will give more of a heady effect and higher temps more body.. A lot of different factors including body fat play a major role in a specific persons tolerance levels.. I personally have such a low body fat and active lifestyle that I can cleanse my system in 72 hours which leads to very few tolerance issues with 26 different strains in the stash..
 
Good info Dub. Yes I am looking for a hash/bud water pipe. Started a thread in accessory forum.

Been running 365 lately. In the past, much lower temp. about 328. Before that even lower.

At 365 this new bud is harsh. Not a great cure for a number of reasons.

Can understand fats effect. Working on that--for sure. Incredible you are down to 5%. Check out CNN. It may still be up--photos of celebrities weight loss and gain for movie roles. Stunning what they do in a short period of time. And the way they do it is near starvation.

26 strains--now its just inventory management. Like a mini library. Hope you display them in your "cannabis spice rack."

Cheers--good to see you around--you have been busy of late.
 
More and more input now, it makes me happy as hell. I think we all here want the best auto flowering cannabis we can get and the only way to get that is to talk about the things that we are not happy with so breeders can try to inprove on that, right?

Regular cannabis has been around thousands and thousands of years, off course they are more complex and "better", autoflowering cannabis is still very new to all of us so i very much think that AFC will get there finally, but only if we all work toghether for that case...

And i dont think i am allergic to it, because i am not allergic to one singel thing (that i know of any how).


And im not saying that ALL photos are better then ALL autos, far from it... all the street weed i have smoked in my years are rubbish compering to the autos i have grown and smoked... but when you step up and do some research about top notch breeders and get your hands om some connoisseur genetics, some holy grail of cannabis, then thats a whole other ball park...

justin
 
Not sure if this is relevant but I recently started vaping aftera 5 months break. Was getting panic attacks from eating herb.. (Mainly Wappa photoperiod) I started on my auto but could not assess the buzz cause of the panic attacks at even the lowest doses of any bud.

I am vaping the auto wappa and my second bag of the same does (fresh herb) hit me aroun 30pct of the strength of bag 1. Also the stone was quite clean no where near as heavy and relaxing as bag 1. Just soemthign I thought I would add out of interest. Obviously I will have to get some photo wappa leftovers in there (probably rip my head off and I know for a fact Wappa is a very complex and deep buzz...though remember I was eating it so the effecst are a litle differenet in the body...... relaxing, mildly trippy, distorts your vision a little (or a lot sometiems at high doses), literally .. moments of empy headedness and loss of 10 seconds of time... like a mind warp...very weird thoughts and trains of thought often bringing considerable anxiety....seeing things out of the corners of your eyes.. deep relaxation.. strong body effects and muscle relaxation) Of course this can relate to harvest time as well so we have to bear that in mind throughout and this was harvested early. 6 weeks into flower so it had an edgy, uppy buzz.

Towards the end I am not sure I needed it that intense as it was.

Interesting thread.

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Just to add.. normal auto's can have between 0.1pct and 1pct CBD, they seem naturally a little more rich and CBD has some ability to modulate the effecst of THC. So you might wabnt to see if this relates to any of the strains you are hitting a barrier early with ? CBD has a complex interaction with THC in the brain. For me it might be good because it seems to have anxiolytic qualites.... Anxiety can kill a buzz dead and so far no panic attacks for me on the auto wappa. Lots of ifs and buts but very inetersting discussion.

I can live with slightly weaker stone as long as it keps panic attacks at bay.

I am absolutely loving vapourizing, it is incredible really. All the benfits of smoking, i.e. dose control and speed of hit and almost none of the health issues. I vape around 185C keeping the irritants fairly low on the scale.

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Just to add.. normal auto's can have between 0.1pct and 1pct CBD, they seem naturally a little more rich and CBD has some ability to modulate the effecst of THC. So you might wabnt to see if this relates to any of the strains you are hitting a barrier early with ? CBD has a complex interaction with THC in the brain. For me it might be good because it seems to have anxiolytic qualites.... Anxiety can kill a buzz dead and so far no panic attacks for me on the auto wappa. Lots of ifs and buts but very inetersting discussion.

I can live with slightly weaker stone as long as it keps panic attacks at bay.

I am absolutely loving vapourizing, it is incredible really. All the benfits of smoking, i.e. dose control and speed of hit and almost none of the health issues. I vape around 185C keeping the irritants fairly low on the scale.
 
Well I might be experiencing something like Justinsane. I will try out the photo wappa.. cause I needed 3 bags last night of auto stuff to get as stoned as I wished for.

The effect was stoned but not high. You know... relaxed in the mind and body...but not really euphoric and high, happy enhanced etc... more bland tranquil than high and feeling happy smily.

Anyway will report back later after a bag of the powerful stuff later on. (photo stuff)
 
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