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You have the patience of a saint for outdoor growing Waira! Maybe after a couple years of growing I’d be alright, but I think as a new grower I’d be a nervous wreck. I don’t take it for granted for a moment that everyday the sun shines, temperature and humidity are ideal, plenty of food, and no pests (present crisis excluded).

:jointman: - Nothin' doin' mon, it's in many ways far more simple that indoor,... As a hydro gal, you're tackling the steepest learning curve there is for cannabis growing! Hydro' is constant vigilance and adjusting on pH, ppm's, res' T, etc., to say nothing of all the rest of the gig... lights, env. control, air movement, stank scrubbing,... :help: ...Top that with how twitchy the nutrient availabilities are in solution with pH, which makes everything happen faster, often worse,... upside, things can be fixed faster though!
Now consider outside, IF you have the right climate and security, have chosen strains carefully in relation to this, then the burden of light and all env. control is lifted off your back! For auto's, it's more difficult to be sure vs. photo's... warmer T all around, and those extra light hours indoors make them perform their best, hands down,.. some auto's do OK outside, others turn out shaggy and larfy no matter what,.. Cool is a real party killer especially during dark hours... Before I got a real tent (and it's still not inside, when season/weather is good, it's in an small outside courtyard with a small heater), I was growing them outside mostly, just giving supplemental light in a garage ghetto rig "tent",.. always small plants- :doh:... now with the tent, in soil and part organic, part synthetic nutes regime, I average about and oz/gal pot size, which is 2-3 gal only,... not too shabby! :biggrin: I'm far less concerned with yield, much more for quality,... all the girls Sunbathe from about mid-bloom on for a few to several hours if possible. The Sun and UVB work their magic no doubt!:dizzy::baked:
Photo's are of course, more tolerant and flexible because of their longer life cycle, veg' time, larger size in general,... bugs are a hassle, some are so ubiquitous that there's no stopping them, just keeping them from getting established; thrips, aphids, a few caterpillar species are what bother me most often, but as mentioned above that systemic keeps them at bay,.. they may grab a taste or two, I still see minor leaf damage, but they don't stay- :finger: :rofl:.. Well, aphids aside, this one little black flier species was my [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG] headache at the previous spot, a clients courtyard,... color and likely, aroma draw them in, no stopping that... they still will feed some, and crap babies everywhere meantime, so for several weeks, I do have to go on kill-patrol nearly every day- :deadhorse:....20+ can move in daily! :cuss:.... The new spot I'm in now, cooler, closer to the ocean, was nearly bug free, so there's a big "local" factor involved with that,.. Some folks with extensive gardens, veggies in particular, have more problems with canna' bugs than most because the yard is a vermin paradise, drawing them in all the time! I'd say the real hand-wringing starts during late bloom, weather depending, and security,... few thieves bother with veg'ing plants, right? :rofl: but in these techy-days, peoples yards are more well monitored than before, and anybody risking fence diving risks getting busted one way or another! I have to laugh, here in a legal state and grow, I can literally call the cops to report the theft! :rofl:-- hey, trespassing is trespassing, to say nothing of the value of the plants,.. that could push it into felony charges range! :rolleyes1: :hump: .... no, my biggest enemy is mold, botrytis aka bud rot,... there are some tricks to work there to help reduce impact, certain microbial sprays (they eat fungal microbes), a fan for air movement,.. smaller pot can be hauled off to rain shielded areas too if you're lucky! Here is where strain choice matters greatly :greencheck:.... gotta do your research on mold resistance, and chose wisely or risk a real shit-show at the end!
... sheesh, ramble on Mr. gellie- :crying:


Damn Waira, you're a walking encyclopedia of Neat Stuff. I did see some growers use mosquito dunks in hydroponics but not in flower, I'd prefer to use the more natural concoctions first.
I would love to get my hands on spinosad, in Canada we seem to not have access to much.
:biggrin: thanks RG, it's all about paying it forward,... I had some old Admin help me out plenty when I first came, green as the plants at growing canna' at least,.. I did have lots of experience with species orchids, carnivores, cactus/succulents, which definitely helped, but running any annual is a very different game,... So, you dig in, research, read up, pester the shit out of better growers-:rofl:- and sponge it all up and apply best you can! This is how I got roped into becoming the Infirmary chief,... mentors helped me diagnose my plants, then I started helping mates, and it grew from there,.. then I got snagged by JM and Aunty mossy for staff!
We have excellent hydro growers here, they would know best of the Bt will be a problem in a res' env., even if it's just to snuff the bastards in the wool cubes or whatever,... my worry is "contaminating" the res' solution and throwing off the other beneficials in there,.... soil so so so different in this regard, much more dynamic and competitive (read stabilizing) from the sheer numbers and types of microbes,....
:doh: I know, Canada is a real beating for certain products, shipping, etc.,... spinosad isn't the product name per se, it's the active ingredient... it can be found as a ready spray, or as a conc.,... it's derived from a bacterium, so is "food safe, organic" and all that jazz,... it's not a contact killer, it needs time to work ( a neurotoxin, like pyrethrum, which comes from chrysanthemums),.. usually they sicken quickly, go off feed, and croak out a day or so later! :amazon:...
 
I've looked up every product I can get local, no spinosad in anything. I can get it on Amazon US site but who knows if it will get nabbed at the border. Plus it is dead of winter here.
I have used End All II, Bug-B-Gone, Neem (Had to buy online it's unavailable as an insecticide here), various mixes of things. It was tricky getting rid of the spider mites as I didn't have enough variety for rotation, hence using rubbing alcohol, neem & soap, insecticidal soap, pyrethrum, pretty much all we can get here.
I've grown a huge variety of plant species, at home and at work. Current job we only use beneficial insects for pests, sulphur for PM and other natural products. I love beneficials, growing anything I can, etc etc. I can go on and on. I have a variety of carnivorous plant seeds I need to start. I have some gibberellic acid to see if I can break dormancy without a cold period. I love experimenting!
Anyway I think we've wandered away from the thread into pleasant conversation but no complaints yet :cheers:
 
We have lots of Canadian growers here, have any of them chimed in elsewhere for what they've found that works? A lot of products these days are using botanical oil extracts as active ingrds.,.... but if Ca. is butt clenching over bloody neem oil, I have to wonder about even botanical/organic products! :doh: ... also, giving them the 1-2 punch of different products/treatments works better than any 1 alone,....


I've grown a huge variety of plant species, at home and at work. Current job we only use beneficial insects for pests, sulphur for PM and other natural products. I love beneficials, growing anything I can, etc etc. I can go on and on. I have a variety of carnivorous plant seeds I need to start. I have some gibberellic acid to see if I can break dormancy without a cold period. I love experimenting!
:woohoo1: I love it! ...how I miss that orchid job,... My collection is a pale shadow of what it was back then,...:sad: ... best part was getting to try out different species, and if they didn't like Life there, they came back before croaking out! ...had some great surprises that way, some real jungle types like Den. antennatum did surprisingly well in such a temperate climate, and indoors,... others were a flop! :rofl: - Dracula's were a no-go all the way, flowers hated the lower RH%!
I'm in the middle of dividing a bunch of White Trumpet Pitchers right now, the Tarnok cultivar- :greenthumb: --crazy cool red comet-like flowers! ... seeds of this common Sundew variety have been carrying on into most divisions I make for years now- :rofl: like bloody weeds! All from one little cheesy plant I found at a garden store,.... Almost lost my cephalotus plants to a mystery fungal disease, barely save a single plant,... I had two 6" pots and an 8" filled to the edges 4 years ago :cuss:-- a small fortune in retail $$!.... now just a wee 4"...:goodluck:
 
We have lots of Canadian growers here, have any of them chimed in elsewhere for what they've found that works? A lot of products these days are using botanical oil extracts as active ingrds.,.... but if Ca. is butt clenching over bloody neem oil, I have to wonder about even botanical/organic products! :doh: ... also, giving them the 1-2 punch of different products/treatments works better than any 1 alone,....



:woohoo1: I love it! ...how I miss that orchid job,... My collection is a pale shadow of what it was back then,...:sad: ... best part was getting to try out different species, and if they didn't like Life there, they came back before croaking out! ...had some great surprises that way, some real jungle types like Den. antennatum did surprisingly well in such a temperate climate, and indoors,... others were a flop! :rofl: - Dracula's were a no-go all the way, flowers hated the lower RH%!
I'm in the middle of dividing a bunch of White Trumpet Pitchers right now, the Tarnok cultivar- :greenthumb: --crazy cool red comet-like flowers! ... seeds of this common Sundew variety have been carrying on into most divisions I make for years now- :rofl: like bloody weeds! All from one little cheesy plant I found at a garden store,.... Almost lost my cephalotus plants to a mystery fungal disease, barely save a single plant,... I had two 6" pots and an 8" filled to the edges 4 years ago :cuss:-- a small fortune in retail $$!.... now just a wee 4"...:goodluck:

Yeah more butt clenching here than someone with dysentery trying to find a restroom. I've researched so much and read so much I can't imagine anything I've missed yet. But my 3-4 hit approach and cleaning seems to have ended it. I have not seen sign of mites in over a month now. Fingers crossed!! There are sellers who ship up here but winter isn't good especially for certain products.

I miss my retail garden job for that, so many interesting plants to work with, but I couldn't deal with the general public anymore. Until you've worked a retail type job you have no idea, :wall::wall::wall::cuss::cuss:lol
I'll post up pics when I get anything growing, I imagine it would be in Live Stoners or somewhere where it's welcome. I would love to see your plants too!
It sucks you lost most of your cephalotus but at least you saved a wee bit!
 
:nono: eeeeeewwww...! :rofl: ....I can laugh now, but anyone who's been that butt-sick before, knows what can happen if you stray too far from the throne!
----> :eek1:
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- goes your ass.... :poof: - goes your dignity! :rofl:

:amazon: good on winning the War! A much more challenging task when your weapons are limited,... Not that it's likely it's available up there (?), but solid anectdotal feedbakc from this product used as a foliar spray showed great results despite it not being intended for that purpose: Kelzyme Element XX .... (the company name is a mystery to me, not enzymes here!).... it's a unique fossilized marine sediment mined in Nevada; primarily Ca, but it's a complex composite and has over 20 other elements in it, including Si and all the micronutes- :greenthumb:
Good stuff as is, comes as fine granular or micronized powder, and it's the latter that can be used as a foliar spray on pests. Apparently it has the same effect that diatomaceous earth has, acting as a physical abrasive, getting into their tender spots and bleeding them out, as such acting as a dessicant too :pimphand:... I've not tried it myself for this, but will when the chance presents! I figure on veg'ing plants, fans only, any remnants will be of no concern,... Might have to test that regardless and see if a water rinse+wetting agent clears most of it out..?

I miss my retail garden job for that, so many interesting plants to work with, but I couldn't deal with the general public anymore. Until you've worked a retail type job you have no idea, :wall:
:eek1: dudette! get outta my head- :rofl: I worked at a retail nursery for a few years way back, so I know that pain.... Some folks were great, but some weren't, and this place was near the fancy-pants side of town, so I had a lot of snobby ass-hats coming in with that imperious air and addressing you like you were a hirsute peasant there for the bidding! :finger: ... I left it for the orchid nursery, have meet those folks about the same time and was making regular trips up to the greenhouses a couple hours away to feed my new addiction! .... started 'working" for plants, leaning, trying things out,... it was a nice place to land for a while...:biggrin:
I have tons of pics here, but thery are scattered all the f*ck over, no one spot... I'll tag you up when I post or find them again! If you haven't visited our Aussie mate Hecno here, do so... best soil guy I know here, in a fantastic place doing amazing things with local product, most hand made.... I'm talking raiding giant bush turkey nests for mulch, local worms raised, the whole lot :wiz:.... You'll see!
 
:nono: eeeeeewwww...! :rofl: ....I can laugh now, but anyone who's been that butt-sick before, knows what can happen if you stray too far from the throne!
----> :eek1:
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- goes your ass.... :poof: - goes you dignity! :rofl:

:amazon: good on winning the War! A much more challenging task when your weapons are limited,... Not that it's likely it's available up there (?), but solid anectdotal feedbakc from this product used as a foliar spray showed great results despite it not being intended for that purpose: Kelzyme Element XX .... (the company name is a mystery to me, not enzymes here!).... it's a unique fossilized marine sediment mined in Nevada; primarily Ca, but it's a complex composite and has over 20 other elements in it, including Si and all the micronutes- :greenthumb:
Good stuff as is, comes as fine granular or micronized powder, and it's the latter that can be used as a foliar spray on pests. Apparently it has the same effect that diatomaceous earth has, acting as a physical abrasive, getting into their tender spots and bleeding them out, as such acting as a dessicant too :pimphand:... I've not tried it myself for this, but will when the chance presents! I figure on veg'ing plants, fans only, any remnants will be of no concern,... Might have to test that regardless and see if a water rinse+wetting agent clears most of it out..?


:eek1: dudette! get outta my head- :rofl: I worked at a retail nursery for a few years way back, so I know that pain.... Some folks were great, but some weren't, and this place was near the fancy-pants side of town, so I had a lot of snobby ass-hats coming in with that imperious air and addressing you like you were a hirsute peasant there for the bidding! :finger: ... I left it for the orchid nursery, have meet those folks about the same time and was making regular trips up to the greenhouses a couple hours away to feed my new addiction! .... started 'working" for plants, leaning, trying things out,... it was a nice place to land for a while...:biggrin:
I have tons of pics here, but thery are scattered all the f*ck over, no one spot... I'll tag you up when I post or find them again! If you haven't visited our Aussie mate Hecno here, do so... best soil guy I know here, in a fantastic place doing amazing things with local product, most hand made.... I'm talking raiding giant bush turkey nests for mulch, local worms raised, the whole lot :wiz:.... You'll see!

Ha! No one likes exploding pants. I have a few health issues so I joke about some pretty gross things... :gassy:

And spot on I had the same thing, people coming in and treating staff like plebs. The best was when a customer was obnoxious and asked one of the staff to get the supervisor. I was body building last summer and came out to "help" with tattoos, piercings and multicolored hair. People sure got polite fast LOL. I think they just got taken off guard, plus I was super polite because some people hate it when you're saccharine nice :biggrin: they can't complain right?? Most others calmed down once they were heard, often it was just frustration. But I also remember the customer who bought me ice cream on a hot day after I helped him, and the numerous people I could talk shop with. The new growers who came in baffled, and asked to speak to the manager above me once I helped them to say how grateful they were. It was great but in the end not where I wanted to be.

Orchids I've never grown but one day, I've always wanted to. I'll also have a look at that spray and see if it's around here, but alas I have never seen it in stores. Could be online and I can order when it's not winter (I can get Capt. Jacks on US Amazon but not with freezing).
 
I was body building last summer and came out to "help" with tattoos, piercings and multicolored hair. People sure got polite fast LOL. I think they just got taken off guard, plus I was super polite because some people hate it when you're saccharine nice :biggrin: they can't complain right??
:crying:- stigma power to the rescue! They probably though you'd poke them with your nose piercing- :evil1: :rolleyes1: :rofl: ....Then you go and jam them up even more by being all nice and professional about it= :confused1: :haha: ...... yes, a few were insufferable, they weren't interested in anything but the satisfaction of crapping on somebody, but usually "management" knew these clowns well enough to where the real bitching was coming from....Most were OK though, and a few others were great to work with,...and spent the $$! .... I didn't totally escape from butthead customers at the greenhouses though, this place was one of the few around where regular customers, orchid societies, tours, etc. could literally browse the greenhouses directly by appointment... We did orchid shows too...But they were actually few and far between, plus my friends/bosses knew well and would warn me ahead of time... then after, we'd all go have a "safety meeting" :eyebrows:....
Orchids are a blast, what set the hook in me though was seeing the species types and all the bizarre diversity that they have! I fell for the freaks- :rofl: ....the biology and botany behind the many ways and morphologies the flowers take to draw in their pollinators... All need to have some sort of carrier, they don't have airborne pollen, it's all tucked into a sort of gel-pack with a sticky part for attaching onto the pollinator.... Again, where you live is the tough part to overcome, but there are certainly some species and hybrids that will do fine at home....
 
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