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[hank]

What really kills it for me reading all this talk about people with new strains and bullshit test. NO ONE on here post any test from what they have grown. Claims from breeders that are total bullshit.
AFN really?

Looking for someone to step up.
Let us keep it CBD high THC low.
Would love to run the stuff the breeder says is 25:1

 

[Son of Hobbes]

What really kills it for me reading all this talk about people with new strains and bullshit test. NO ONE on here post any test from what they have grown. Claims from breeders that are total bullshit.
AFN really?

Looking for someone to step up.
Let us keep it CBD high THC low.
Would love to run the stuff the breeder says is 25:1

Legit question, what would you like for the breeders to bring forward that would bring more legitimacy to their claims? With breeders all around the world, are there certain labs that are more accepted than others? Certain testing units that are deemed more accurate than others? I spent some time talking to a guy trying to sell me a $55,000 unit that tested cannabinoids and even he told me that running three tests on the same plant, same buds, same branch ,would all produce a different result. So what is the industry accepted standard for testing, or at the least a testing procedure for breeders on AFN? I at the very least agree with you that lab testing results should be furnished in their entirety to the public by breeders (honestly what would they have to lose?) at the very least if they are asked for.

I live in Colorado. Let me quote you something from a label of medicinal (not recreational) marijuana we just purchased. THC 17.89%-28.1%. That's some home grown, Colorado photoperiod, sonnnnnn. So what is, hank? Do I have 28% THC bud? Or 17%? I get where you are coming from in terms of consistency and transparency, but even here in Colorado they can't nail down what they are putting in the jar. Just wanted to point that out We have several breeders on site with reps, have you tried messaging them to ask if they can furnish any tested results?

Oh and we don't allow public seed trading. You know those darn pesky rules

 

[briman]

Mitch at Mephisto has all his strains tested by Sebastien at alpha-cat. give Mitch a PM @hank

 

[KonopCh]

It's bussiness, like every one...
We live in that era... full of marketing, lies and other nasty stuff. From chocolate, water without calories, cars... to cannabis seeds.

Just quick search to some breeders... What you see?
- quick flowering in 8 weeks
- big buds up to 750g/m2
- THC up to 35%
- full of aroma
- mold resistant

And what is true? Neither of this, sadly.

 

[Rapha El]

It's bussiness, like every one...
We live in that era... full of marketing, lies and other nasty stuff. From chocolate, water without calories, cars... to cannabis seeds.

Just quick search to some breeders... What you see?
- quick flowering in 8 weeks
- big buds up to 750g/m2
- THC up to 35%
- full of aroma
- mold resistant

And what is true? Neither of this, sadly.

.. and that's why the grow logs and strain reports here matter.

 

[KonopCh]

Yep, be sceptical, use your head and don't believe everything you hear.

 

[MikeyB420]

I'm subbed

 

[MedGrower]

I live in Colorado. Let me quote you something from a label of medicinal (not recreational) marijuana we just purchased. THC 17.89%-28.1%. That's some home grown, Colorado photoperiod, sonnnnnn. So what is, hank? Do I have 28% THC bud? Or 17%? I get where you are coming from in terms of consistency and transparency, but even here in Colorado they can't nail down what they are putting in the jar. Just wanted to point that out

That is absolutely good point. Almost every product you would take as an example, needs heavy processing in order to keep what ever consistencies stable on larger volumes of the product. At the moment I don't think there are any viable method of processing cannabis in such a way without sacrificing a lot of it's content; various cannabinoids and terpenes. I remember Dutch Passion had a blog up some years back about "clone seeds" that would help narrow the phenotype expression of individual strains and stabilize the plants to be more consistent in their profile, but I am afraid that would be only a part of the solution.

 

[AutoWonders]

That's life baby! We consumers have been screwed over by manufaturers for a long time. Products are mostly desribed by over inflated copy in their ads to help sell more. It's bullshit and I don't see it stopping in the near future. I will never take a car manufacturers miles per gallon as factual. Never again.

 

[hank]

Legit question, what would you like for the breeders to bring forward that would bring more legitimacy to their claims? With breeders all around the world, are there certain labs that are more accepted than others? Certain testing units that are deemed more accurate than others? I spent some time talking to a guy trying to sell me a $55,000 unit that tested cannabinoids and even he told me that running three tests on the same plant, same buds, same branch ,would all produce a different result. So what is the industry accepted standard for testing, or at the least a testing procedure for breeders on AFN? I at the very least agree with you that lab testing results should be furnished in their entirety to the public by breeders (honestly what would they have to lose?) at the very least if they are asked for.

I live in Colorado. Let me quote you something from a label of medicinal (not recreational) marijuana we just purchased. THC 17.89%-28.1%. That's some home grown, Colorado photoperiod, sonnnnnn. So what is, hank? Do I have 28% THC bud? Or 17%? I get where you are coming from in terms of consistency and transparency, but even here in Colorado they can't nail down what they are putting in the jar. Just wanted to point that out We have several breeders on site with reps, have you tried messaging them to ask if they can furnish any tested results?

Oh and we don't allow public seed trading. You know those darn pesky rules

With growing high CBD hemp testing is a must for me. I have had a few test that seemed to be out of wack but I have also had test that where very consistent.
Within the hemp industry in Colorado people promise so much bullshit. I have been lucky enough to talk with a few head breeders, and spent a crap load of time and money to find something that is really what they say it is.

With our prized genetics I know where the CBD to THC is at, at almost any point of flower. About 10-14 days into September we are a little better then 5% CBD and .18% THC. We can hit 9% CBD and just under .3% THC by the end of September. If we let the plants go into the 3rd week of October we are sitting almost 12% CBD and .42% THC. It takes time and lots of testing.
I hope that breeders that make crazy claims here can show testing with a sliding scale of what the plant should do at any point of flower.
Just sick of the lies that people say to sell something that is subpar.

As I said I have had odd test results that did not make sense, if I got something back that tested THC 17.89%-28.1% I would wonder what the fuck was going on.
Are they testing different parts of the plant, are they testing at different times, are they testing with a dirty machine? THC 17.89%-28.1% is a massive range.
Reps here have said they will post test results and often times do not.


Oh and pesky rules are good rules