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A Garden Of Goodies

Hey Mediscrogs, You're speaking of pollinating a plant that you still want to harvest some buds from correct? Some people or literature talk of the theory that a female plant puts everything she has in to producing seed and the flowers can suffer because of this. Judging from your pictures I assume this has not been an issue for you?
 
Yes, you can also just do an open pollination and seed the whole plant, but it's easy enough to get 20 seeds or so from a secondary bud. I'm guessing I've got around 40 or 50 per plant, which is good enough. When I run them, I probably want to start like 10, and look for one or two keepers that are most vigorous, etc. as there might be some clunkers too, who knows.

The developing seeds do take resources from the plant. I noticed the seeded buds became much leafier looking on the plant. Here's a couple pics today, in the second one you can see a single calyx in the middle of the frame that's got a nice seed in it. In the third, the browning leaves is not rot, but nutrient tapping out at the end. You want to leave the seeds in there and bag dry, cure normally with the seeds inside the bud as they continue finishing even after the chop.

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Overall, I don't think you're losing much yield with a small amount of selective pollination.

Robbio, since you don't easily have a separate space for a male, it's maybe easiest to run it earlier or when your other plants are finishing so that the pollen doesn't mess with everything.

Pollen stays active though for awhile, and can lurk inside your fans and stuff and create unintended seeds, so you'd want to spray the area with water afterwards. With the male pods, you can kind of watch them and sense when the first ones are going to start opening. If you could remove it at that time and get it somewhere...hang out in a bathroom, garage, somewhere with a little window light or something for a few days....but there's always the risk of the dust getting tracked around on your clothes, feet or whatever. If you dedicated a little male tent there's still an issue with any fans in there, and including any exhaust fan, so I dunno, it's not convenient for this reason. Put outside seems best if you can swing it, but a spare room is okay if you're real careful I guess.

It was suggested to me to wait an additional 3 days after the male flowers start opening, then gently collect the ones that have opened or are close to opening, and place those on a piece of parchment paper. You could use like tweezers, but i actually just used my fiskars. They'll open on their own as they dry. You have this paper with the collected male pods that are open or close to it, and probably fold it first with a crease down the middle so it makes a little "v". Set this in a small box and fill the bottom with a layer of rice, then set your paper on top and close the box, let it set for a couple days in a dark, cool kitchen cabinet or desk drawer. It doesn't have to be a big box. Fuggzy here made a cool tutorial for this method on another site, here's one of his pics:
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After like 2 days, you can just tap the paper gently with a chopstick or something and the vibrations will help release the golden dust and you can now separate the pods from the dust and discard. Leave the dust only now in your box on the papers and close it up for another day. Now the pollen has more surface area to continue drying. When you tap the paper, the vegetative material will tend to slide out easy enough. You don't want to muck up the pollen with oils from your skin though, so I would wear gloves as a precaution.

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From here, after a day or so, you'll want to put the pollen in vials, but leave the vials open in your box for another 3 to 5 days, and with a grain of rice or two in the vial as well. The pollen needs to be dry before you try and store it, but obviously it's ready to use when fresh, and fresh is most active.

So you've got around a week total where the pollen air dries in your box before you try to seal and store it. I used those little centrifuge tubes, the plastic ones that seeds are stored in, that's a perfect little size with a single grain of rice in it. Then, I actually sealed it with candle wax. The wax being warm, may have slightly warmed the tube I hope I didn't f it up with this little step I added. I put the sealed tubes in a vitamin bottle with more rice like I do with my seeds. You can then put it in your fridge for like a month, or in the freezer for up to like 6 months, but the fresher the pollen, the better. Let the vial come to room temp before you try sneaking up on your plants with it so moisture won't condense on it when you open it. Storing the pollen in several small vials or tubes is helpful like this so you're not opening and refreezing the same tubes.
 
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very nice info man,thank you for all your effort.Peace.

Yeah man, for sure, just passing on what others have shared. You can always pm or reply here if you have other questions about the process. You'll feel satisfied as a grower if you have the opportunity to carry it out. Instead of feeling bored or burned out on the tent, I'm already excited to see what the new cross is going to look like, will run some of the new beans after the Portal Bud Blast run is done. It definitely keeps the hobby fresh.....
 
Wow, thanks for the tutorial medi! Im grateful for the information.

Also, i tagged you in a new grower thread. He is doing Neville haze as i am again and he is struggling. This one is staying very short just like his first run did. Idk, too much water, too strong led being too close? Would you mind taking a look? The plant looks healthy
 
Hope everyone is doing well, there is not much news here for this garden, but I've been experimenting with eating raw buds here recently with the last popcorns on the g14. I've been reading again recently about the health benefits of juicing raw buds and trim. Since I don't have a wheatgrass juicer yet, I've started with just eating the buds straight off the plant.

I'd like to call out for any of you peeps who've done any juicing, curious about your experiences if you'd share.

I don't have any chronic disease condition beyond back pain, but I figure the preventative health benefits are worth exploring. I find so far that even just eating the raw bud gives a very nice mental refresh, a bit of zing without the stone you get from say edibles. It feels very healthful, and also seems to potentiate the highs later when I smoke, although I might be imagining that, but I'm pretty much set on getting a whiz bang juicer here before my next crop is up to do some more experimenting. I seem to be able to harvest enough buds to have spare for juicing.

Any other juicers out there, I appreciate your feedback, and I just want to generally recommend it to you others out there with harvest to spare, but I'll report on some juicing experiences in November when my Portal buds are finishing up.

Here's an informative article on raw bud juicing. You can get much greater amounts of cannabinnoid and terpenes into your system for therapeutic benefit, without getting baked to smithereens.

https://www.medicaljane.com/category/cannabis-classroom/consuming-cannabis/juicing/

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That is a very good article! I wonder if you could freeze the leaf to keep it fresh?

Thanks!
 
That is a very good article! I wonder if you could freeze the leaf to keep it fresh?

Thanks!

Yeah, possibly. At least in a zip lock in the fridge, would stay fairly fresh for maybe a week..?

I figure to selectively juice lowers on a plant for a period of 2-3 weeks leading up to harvest, they recommend clear instead of cloudy trichs.
Again, I'm not suffering from cancer or other disease so I don't figure to need to juice everyday, but maybe everyday for a couple weeks as plants ripen before harvest. I seem to have plenty enough bud for smoking purposes anyway so I don't mind juicing some.
 
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