Lighting Anyone tried the Apollo LEDs?

[flat9]

While that may or may not be true, the Apollo's have custom casings, are shipped inside the US and have a warranty.

There are no prices on that link you gave and I can't find the same spec lights on their ali express page so how can we compare prices/warranties?

They're the same, but actually now that I checked they've dropped the price on the Apollos so much that they're a better deal:

Apollos:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M13MANO/

Houyis:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...indoor-led-helios-grow/134227_1243829034.html

230 + tax on Amazon (at least tax for me and in most states nowadays), vs 288 on AliExpress. You could probably get Houyi to price match if you email them. They're nice people. I've got 4 of the 16x75w COB models and I've been pretty happy with them.

One thing to note though is you might want to have the 110 degree reflector to cover a 2 x 2 well with these things. The problem w/ LEDs is not penetration, it's coverage.

 

[flat9]

Used to be 360 on Amazon by the way...

 

[flat9]

And finally, to answer any questions on warranty, pricing, etc., just email them. They respond quickly.

 

[Bilbo]

Sorry flat, I just couldn't find them today, complete brain freeze! I'm guessing now the US dispatched prices are lower most will want have them instead of shipping in from China.

 

[flat9]

Thanks for all the info guys!! I have my room it's about 3 1/2x6 ft. I don't use it all but I have a 600 hps in there now. Is there any way to determine what size light I would need. I assume 2 at least. I'm really interested in the ones I linked. I have a 90w led I bought offline with some issue that I fixed and I'm really impressed with the light output from it. Is there a led watt to hps/mh watt equivalent chart anywhere? Thanks for the help so far!!

Generally speaking 50 watts per sq ft if you're using HPS. So that's 1050 watts. In LED land, I think you can get away with 600 watts actual draw, with a big caveat....

... coverage. You're typically better off getting four or six smaller units that add up to 600 watts or more than one or two bigger ones that add up to six hundred.

Given the dimensions of your room, I'd say maybe go with 2 of these:
http://www.ledaquagrow.com/LEDGrowLight/HYG01-9x75W.html

Your dimension are roughly 6 x 3, so 2-1 ratio, hence the selection above. Two of these will likely draw about 800 watts, and that may end up being hotter than the 660 watts that a 600 watt HPS draws (presuming you have the ballast outside here). The good news is that if you get a fogger, blow humidity into the air, they don't suck nearly as much humidity out of the air, and you'll likely be able to run cooler temps (extra water vapor will cool the temps).

See if you can get the 110 degree reflectors for better coverage if necessary. They should do a PAR test over a grid if you ask them to....

 

[Gadgetguy]

Generally speaking 50 watts per sq ft if you're using HPS. So that's 1050 watts. In LED land, I think you can get away with 600 watts actual draw, with a big caveat....

... coverage. You're typically better off getting four or six smaller units that add up to 600 watts or more than one or two bigger ones that add up to six hundred.

Given the dimensions of your room, I'd say maybe go with 2 of these:
http://www.ledaquagrow.com/LEDGrowLight/HYG01-9x75W.html

Your dimension are roughly 6 x 3, so 2-1 ratio, hence the selection above. Two of these will likely draw about 800 watts, and that may end up being hotter than the 660 watts that a 600 watt HPS draws (presuming you have the ballast outside here). The good news is that if you get a fogger, blow humidity into the air, they don't suck nearly as much humidity out of the air, and you'll likely be able to run cooler temps (extra water vapor will cool the temps).

See if you can get the 110 degree reflectors for better coverage if necessary. They should do a PAR test over a grid if you ask them to....

Yes, this. After running HPS for years... and moving to LED this statement couldn't be more correct. The footprint is very different, although I have to say after looking at the power draw and the results more importantly, the initial cost is worth it. 50,000 hours lol, no replacing bulbs every grow (or other depending on how you roll)

 

[AKNorthernlights]

Here is the 400 watt full spectrum I have.

Its been a great light so far and great price for my small tent.

http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Hortic...-1&keywords=apollo+400+watt+full+spectrum+LED

 

[fatcalvin]

Thanks guys. Like i said im only using probably about 3-4' of the 6 that i have. the rest is "dead space"(fans, walking room, ect..) But the hydro shop guy had like a 480w i think that he wanted 550$ for..... WAY too pricey for me to not be 100% sure that its going to work as well as what i currently have. Just looking for other options and these seem like good ones. Thanks guys.

 

[F.N.]

try cidly direct I think you will get a better price. Now I am not 100% sure but I think cidly is the maker of the apollo

 

[flat9]

Cidly has a LED model called Apollo (as does Houyi now actually). Not sure if they make Apollo Horticulture stuff but all of these companies are in Shenzen as far as I know and are probably grabbing their stuff from the same semiconductor company.

182 was the price I was quoted by emailing Houyi for the same light as the Apollo Horticulture 4x75w COB. Incidentally the price just dropped to 199 on Amazon.