New Grower Blue Mystic First Grow

[curlygirl420]

yeah it is a simply blended soil.do you have any of that?you could try using that but thats a milder soil,thats why i said to grab a gallon of whatever and boost it with that tomato tone for flower right n blooms?so you'll want a larger or heavier feeding topping coat of soil..see what I mean?

well youve done juust fine.you did perfect actually assuming the PH is on,and since you went lighrt whcih newer grower should and NEED to do and your fuckin spot on (Ph n all that) and its now hungry as its telling you from the light coloring in your leaves and less terpene smells,essential oils wont mature well n all sorts of things will occur (still being good smoke though( but she just need food.l

a top coating gives a place for a few roots to take stuff up and develop if the roots a re all bound up.a good tea rounds out the feeding characteristics of the root zones.one type is fine as you see in your plant but more is typically better.variation(not over kill,simplicity works very well) is key in most soils.especially if your moving toward really really good smoke. also to pre blended soil/topping/top coat let it be instantly available to your plant since right now the lesser treated soil isnt strong aenough to really do great.imo it'll do fine if you want to choose that path,but atleast a TBS or so then let it work for a few days then top your plant. and a cpl teaspoons of molasses or honey es and 1 teaspoon or so of epsom salts .OR a decent organic friendly cal mag supplement which is always recommended.i know your stuff has cal n other things in it but its typically not enough for a full grow.and again light handed is the way to go.just cua its not showing cal mag signs a lot,its still a great idea to round a feeding for flower especially when you'll see it completely change your plant.but thats exactly what I'd do if i had those things only.


ok hands are killing me now..hope you got that and im not too high lol

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Eyes. Sorry it made you hurt

She's still drying out from her last watering so I probably won't be able to do anything for 4-5 days I'm guessing. I can spring for some Epsom salt from the drugstore since it's cheap plus I can use it to soak my tootsies. I don't think she's root bound since she's in a 2 gal smart pot. The soil I have on hand was fairly blank so I don't think it will buy me anything to pre-mix it with the tomato tone prior to top dressing. I'm using black gold organic soil and it's .05-0-0 out of the bag, but maybe I've totally missed your point. If I did, please feel free to help me better understand.

I need to check the recommended dose for the tomato tone, but I'm planning on doing about 1/2 strength. The last time I used it a few weeks ago it burned the life out of my bottom leaves. Now I know why they say to put it around the very edge of the pot. LOL! The leaves at the top do look a little lighter than the older growth at the bottom and all the leaves have some minor tip burn. I've also noticed a bit of yellowing on the leaf veins. Not necessarily between the veins, but the actual veins are lighter than the surrounding leaf surface. My camera is crappie so I don't think it would show the subtle color differences well enough to show in a picture.

Using honey for tea seems counterintuitive to me since I know honey has antimicrobial properties. I don't want to do anything to hurt the microbes I've been trying to colonize. I could be totally wrong on this so feel free to help me better understand.

I am a little freaked out because I found a small worm in the drip tray today. It was about 1 cm long with amber colored body. I relocated him outside. Wondering if he came from the insect frass. I really hope I don't have a bug problem!

Would love some feedback from any member on the above ramblings. Now I have to figure out this light situation because if I don't I think she'll be growing in the lights by tomorrow.

Peace.

 

[elsamurai]

Totally thinking out loud here.....what if I moved all my lights from the top and light her from the sides?

replying out loud, that's what I would do. remove the middle ones up top and add to your hangers on the side.i think it will be better all around coverage also

 

[curlygirl420]

I rearranged the lights tonight and swapped out the hanger bulbs to 2700k, but I'm not sure it's much better.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah my hands hurt all the time actually but some days are bad.not yer fault Curly,but yeah,sorry you completely missed the point.my point is any top coating should be dialed in to an extent.such as veg,transition,and/or flowering.containing readily available food(s) for the plant and soil life and varieties. doing that makes it right there over having to wait that week for the tone to fully goto the soil/plant.sorta the same with a tea.so happy growing.i hope you got me a little better that time.happy growing.

 

[elsamurai]

get a plastic tie stap off a trash bag if you can or a strip of a plastic store bag and put a loose loop in it to go around the main stalk about where the highest side light. tie another on the base of the stalk and secure the loose end to the side of the pot that you will pull down.you can tie a string to the loose end and tie the string to a paper clip to hook on the pot. gently pull the top strap down a little bit and secure it to the side. just a little at a time. I'll do a little bit a day over a few days. save you an inch or 2

 

[curlygirl420]

yeah my hands hurt all the time actually but some days are bad.not yer fault Curly,but yeah,sorry you completely missed the point.my point is any top coating should be dialed in to an extent.such as veg,transition,and/or flowering.containing readily available food(s) for the plant and soil life and varieties. doing that makes it right there over having to wait that week for the tone to fully goto the soil/plant.sorta the same with a tea.so happy growing.i hope you got me a little better that time.happy growing.

Yeah, okay I am totally the first one to admit that nothing about this attempt is dialed in. LOL! She is definitely leading me around not the other way around. Haha! So I basically have insect frass (2-2-2), tomato tone(3-4-6), EWC, Molasses, some full on by grow switch (which I used last time a watered - when I top dressed with EWC) and I can buy some Epsom salt. What's the best thing for me to do in a few days when she needs to be feed? I get that top dressing will take time to percolate down through the root zone and giving nutrients in a liquid tea is probably allows the plant and microbes to absorb the good stuff a little faster.

I know I won't get top shelf flower from this plant, but if I can bring her to harvest and get some decent medicine I'll be happy. That's pretty much my goal, that and to prove to myself I can actually grow a plant.

I have a new seedling that I started pretty much the same way that is except I put a pinch of great white mycorrhizae in the seed hole. Little sister is only a few days old so if there was one thing (aside from the Epsom salt) that I could buy that could benefit this plant at 4.5 weeks and her little sister what would that be and how could I best use it with the stuff I have on hand right now?

 

[Vas Deferens]

hey curl, you've got a super coach in eyes there lol

 

[curlygirl420]

Indeed! I am grateful for all the help I can get!

 

[Fuggzy]

Hiya Curly! An amber worm can be a lot of stuff. For instance just a baby worm.
These are from my worm bin. There are about 7 in the photo, although some are hard to find.

Most times you can just give google a basic description (yellow caterpillar, black hair, red strips) and it will give you a bunch of photos. https://www.google.com/search?q=bla...&q=yellow+caterpillar,+black+hair,+red+strips
This is how I look up unknowns. Me personally, I leave all life in the pot, unless I know it is bad. Besides caterpillars, those bastards get the chopping block on site. My indoor soil was mixed and cooked outside. It has critters crawling in it, not a massive amount, but noticeable

Most times it is just something feeding the food web in the soil. Try to think of them as your lil' dwarfs whistling while they work. Take care.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Thanks Vas Man,appreciate that bro.

sooo lemme ask you this..your not PH'ing any water right?..it's from the tap,rain water or whatever,n thats awesome.but next round if you can drop saaay 50-75 bucks you'll do faaarrrr better,promise ya that.lol

well to say any single product or thing is a maassively hard question to answer really.I could say a 15 dollar water PH pen,a soil accurste 8 soil PH probe, two simple products for a rounded simple tea..but if you have any loose soil left I would take a cpl TBspoons of so of this product if you wanna stay with granular stuff to mix with your tomato tone.the pink bag,but the other stuffs are very good and cheap too.the great white and/or any of the the arent super cheap but with the other products they'll serve you excessively well imo.does me anywho..lol

the bio VAM and GW would be my recommendations but any of the three would work.and work well if you mix your soil next time on top of teas.very easy and not to expensive and VERY effective when done with pre blended soil(s).

but if you got loose soil left Id take a few large double handfulls and moisten it and toss in 2 TBspoons of the organicare stuff and then 1 TBS of your tone and a small few teaspoons of that lime to be safe,especially if your not PH'ing anything and with a simple tea for the initial feeding and then let that soil stay and soak up the granules and then top coat with that and water in with some molasses and epsom salts.boom! or icky sticky icky er sumthin like it.sswut Id do anywho. prolly set you back if you were to get the 5-1-1.the lime and the pink bag for prolly.....40 bucks,maybe 45 or so.shouldnt be much more than that or look elsewhere cua roughly 40 bucks is what i paid for them in total. oh and for good measure you could add also a cpl teaspoons of frass if youd like too.not necessary but if ya like adding n mixing it'll be fine.just use a small wee touch less top coating is all. a lot of N.but if you opt out of using the frass,imo you could fill the top of the pot toal assuming its just a bit down.but anywho,freshly baked n all that rambling.hope that helps out some and straightens some things out.kewl?! lol L8r