Easiest way to grow organic ?

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Been growing in coco with GH trio for 3.5 years now with good yield results but lacking taste and smell. A lot of you have advice to go organic.Now,with coco and salts,my plants never have defficiencies and organic seems to be way more finicky and not sure my grower knowledge is sufficient to adjust.
What method of organic growing would be the easiest to transition to?
What kind of soil and nutrients would you recommend to someone moving away from salts and coco?
Thanks for your time. :thumbsup:
 
Been growing in coco with GH trio for 3.5 years now with good yield results but lacking taste and smell. A lot of you have advice to go organic.Now,with coco and salts,my plants never have defficiencies and organic seems to be way more finicky and not sure my grower knowledge is sufficient to adjust.
What method of organic growing would be the easiest to transition to?
What kind of soil and nutrients would you recommend to someone moving away from salts and coco?
Thanks for your time. :thumbsup:
I grow organically. You can look at my threads to see my methods if you'd like.

Here's one with a bit of info that may interest you:

:d5:
 
***I'm somewhat of a new-to-cannabis grower (and I've had humidity issues with seedlings of late). But for what it's worth...***

Part of it will depend of your motivation and objectives. In my case, I approached growing from a long term sustainability perspective; I wanted to recycle my soil which would both save money and reduce the environmental impact of harvesting Peat Moss and shipping. Here was my process;

1. Start with a premixed living soil: There are plenty of examples such as Fox Farms Ocean Forest, Coast of Main Stonington Blend, etc. I like to add a bit more aeration so either perlite, rice hulls or pumice. Alternatively you can build your own mix, but makes it easier to start with a tested recipe.
2. Chose an organic nutrient line: I went with Gaia Green because it's available, high quality and...I'm Canadian. In general, you will be top dressing and reamending your soil as you go along. You'll need a Veg and Flower product. Gaia Green has both, so can be as simple as 2 products.
3. Embrace the microbes: Find a good source of microbes and mycorrhizae. You should periodically replenish these in your grow. Just add to water.
4. Ph issues: Where organic soils tend to buffer the ph and the microbes adjust as needed, it's not as critical as hydroponics or coco medium grows. I often use distilled water as a start, and don't worry too much about it. I'll check my soil ph once in a while for sanity. I've experimented with TNB Naturals PhUp and PhDown - they work great, but not sure if needed in organic. Keep in mind that if you are using distilled water, there is no Calcium or Magnesium. I like to add a bit of oyster shell and epsom salt at the start of each grow.
5. Reamend after grow: Once you're done with a grow, you can reamend your soil. I have a large bin that I dump my soil into and add nutrients (Gaia Green + worm castings). Mix and let sit for 2 to 4 weeks to let things break down a bit.
6. Embrace the beneficials: I mostly use nematodes to keep pests in check. During a recent fungus gnat infestation I added neem meal, and this should probably be added to most soils for each grow as a preventative measure.
7. Pest management: Have a plan. Neem, essential oils, soap, etc. Lots of info on IPM measures.
8. Tea Time: I like compost teas using worm castings. I keep it simple. It's loaded with microbial life and some nutrients without being too much and causing nutrient burn. Use every 2 or 3 weeks or when it feels right.

Organic growing can be as simple or complex as you want it to be. I started simple, but my closet keeps accumulating products intended for various results. I like to re-evaluate my goals once in a while and purge as needed.

J
 
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Been growing in coco with GH trio for 3.5 years now with good yield results but lacking taste and smell. A lot of you have advice to go organic.Now,with coco and salts,my plants never have defficiencies and organic seems to be way more finicky and not sure my grower knowledge is sufficient to adjust.
What method of organic growing would be the easiest to transition to?
What kind of soil and nutrients would you recommend to someone moving away from salts and coco?
Thanks for your time. :thumbsup:
@Smoking Frog are you in the USA? If so get a 7 gallon pot and fill it with 1 cubic foot of Build-a-soil 3.0 soil, plant your seed and water. If in the EU look for Sohum Living Soil.

It can be as simple as that. Organic growing can need some other inputs for insect control and it is a good idea to start off with beneficial nematodes from day one.

I want to question your environment a bit because the things that led to MUCH better terps in my grow was better lights. I have the ChilLeds' GrowCraft. The other thing was adding carbohydrates the last two weeks of the grow. I use AN Bud Candy and molasses. You know my cheap ass would not spend money for Advanced Nutrients but the Bud Candy offers some carbohydrates I cannot get elsewhere.

:goodluck:
 
@Smoking Frog are you in the USA? If so get a 7 gallon pot and fill it with 1 cubic foot of Build-a-soil 3.0 soil, plant your seed and water. If in the EU look for Sohum Living Soil.

It can be as simple as that. Organic growing can need some other inputs for insect control and it is a good idea to start off with beneficial nematodes from day one.

I want to question your environment a bit because the things that led to MUCH better terps in my grow was better lights. I have the ChilLeds' GrowCraft. The other thing was adding carbohydrates the last two weeks of the grow. I use AN Bud Candy and molasses. You know my cheap ass would not spend money for Advanced Nutrients but the Bud Candy offers some carbohydrates I cannot get elsewhere.

:goodluck:
I'm in Canada and using MH SP250 and Quantum boards.Received my Bud Candy today. I ear you on better LEDs but my ass is even more cheap then your,so not planning to spend more $$$ on high end LEDs. Can you remind me where is the recipe for built a soil 3.0 ?
(That hobby is getting expensive.I should have taken on horse riding ) :biggrin:
 
***I'm somewhat of a new-to-cannabis grower (and I've had humidity issues with seedlings of late). But for what it's worth...***

Part of it will depend of your motivation and objectives. In my case, I approached growing from a long term sustainability perspective; I wanted to recycle my soil which would both save money and reduce the environmental impact of harvesting Peat Moss and shipping. Here was my process;

1. Start with a premixed living soil: There are plenty of examples such as Fox Farms Ocean Forest, Coast of Main Stonington Blend, etc. I like to add a bit more aeration so either perlite, rice hulls or pumice. Alternatively you can build your own mix, but makes it easier to start with a tested recipe.
2. Chose an organic nutrient line: I went with Gaia Green because it's available, high quality and...I'm Canadian. In general, you will be top dressing and reamending your soil as you go along. You'll need a Veg and Flower product. Gaia Green has both, so can be as simple as 2 products.
3. Embrace the microbes: Find a good source of microbes and mycorrhizae. You should periodically replenish these in your grow. Just add to water.
4. Ph issues: Where organic soils tend to buffer the ph and the microbes adjust as needed, it's not as critical as hydroponics or coco medium grows. I often use distilled water as a start, and don't worry too much about it. I'll check my soil ph once in a while for sanity. I've experimented with TNB Naturals PhUp and PhDown - they work great, but not sure if needed in organic. Keep in mind that if you are using distilled water, there is no Calcium or Magnesium. I like to add a bit of oyster shell and epsom salt at the start of each grow.
5. Reamend after grow: Once you're done with a grow, you can reamend your soil. I have a large bin that I dump my soil into and add nutrients (Gaia Green + worm castings). Mix and let sit for 2 to 4 weeks to let things break down a bit.
6. Embrace the beneficials: I mostly use nematodes to keep pests in check. During a recent fungus gnat infestation I added neem meal, and this should probably be added to most soils for each grow as a preventative measure.
7. Pest management: Have a plan. Neem, essential oils, soap, etc. Lots of info on IPM measures.
8. Tea Time: I like compost teas using worm castings. I keep it simple. It's loaded with microbial life and some nutrients without being too much and causing nutrient burn. Use every 2 or 3 weeks or when it feels right.

Organic growing can be as simple or complex as you want it to be. I started simple, but my closet keeps accumulating products intended for various results. I like to re-evaluate my goals once in a while and purge as needed.

J
Thanks! Sure looks like more work that i'm use to... H'bout Miracle Gro ? :biggrin: J\K
 
Organic soil cannot fix environmental problems.

 
So,the quality of my LEDs is a problem? Thanks for the link!
No I did not say that, I said that the quality of my lights made a difference in terpene production. I have no idea what the overall quality of your light is? Then I followed with the statement that organic soil will not fix environmental problems. That includes water, nutrients, airflow, RH control, and temperature, along with the quality of the light you provide. You have many successful grows but you are not getting the terpene profile you are looking for. I am just saying look at the whole picture. Make sure it is all up to snuff as this will get you where you want to go.

It ain't easy being mother nature.
 
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