Live Stoner Chat GH nutrient help

[az2000]

Having 1000 ppms in your medium doesn't make your plants take them up any faster. This is just my opinion, for whatever it is worth. But its working for me!

I've been running about 500 seedling, 800 early veg, 1140 full veg/bloom. That's worked very well for me.

I agree that it's tiring to mix various proportions. That was the original appeal of switching to Grow More Sea Grow. Just a tsp of dry nutes. It's all-purpose (16-16-16) through veg (similar simplicity in bloom).

Going to your point: feeding a static all-purpose like that demonstrates the fine-tuned weekly ratio (feeding schedules) are probably overkill. On the other hand, it also demonstrates that supplying additional nute strength (the higher N-P amount) isn't detrimental.

There's probably many variables involved. Buffering compounds, chelation, organic/synthetic, etc. I'm finding stronger (than your numbers) work well. But, I'm starting to agree that weekly fine-tuning of proportions is probably unnecessary.

 

[milk]

Thanks everyone , after 3 hours of maths calculations and writing out 4 different schedules I've got it where I want it although I totally not happy.

The only bummer is I don't have ph / ppm , I used to have one but when I calculated ppm per feed dose and got everything sweet I no longer need it.

should be fun lol thanks fot
everytjing guysz

 

[az2000]

You're missing the Grow. Those Flora nutes are three part, Grow, Micro and Bloom.

I think he's trying to recreate AN's 2-part Sensi Bloom product. He probably felt "Micro" and "Bloom" are more directly equivalent to that. That's probably a safe assumption because such a small amount of "Grow" is used during bloom. Even though Grow is mostly K, it's still 1/3 the amount of Bloom which supplies a similarly large dose of K.

The Grow component only supplies a little Mg. No other minerals. The Bloom component supplies 3 times more Mg (and is dosed 3 times more than Grow in flower).

I don't think it's necessary if he's only recreating a 2-part bloom product. It's like he's doing the Lucas Formula without realizing it. If I wanted a 2-part system, I'd do Lucas with the GH dry components (MaxiGro and MaxiBloom).

 

[pop22]

I've been running about 500 seedling, 800 early veg, 1140 full veg/bloom. That's worked very well for me.

I agree that it's tiring to mix various proportions. That was the original appeal of switching to Grow More Sea Grow. Just a tsp of dry nutes. It's all-purpose (16-16-16) through veg (similar simplicity in bloom).

Going to your point: feeding a static all-purpose like that demonstrates the fine-tuned weekly ratio (feeding schedules) are probably overkill. On the other hand, it also demonstrates that supplying additional nute strength (the higher N-P amount) isn't detrimental.

There's probably many variables involved. Buffering compounds, chelation, organic/synthetic, etc. I'm finding stronger (than your numbers) work well. But, I'm starting to agree that weekly fine-tuning of proportions is probably unnecessary.

I agree with you really. Reading through many grows here it seems some strains are more sensitive to the nutrient strength than other, sometimes even withing the same strain. My point was actually to err on the side of caution. its much easier to fix a deficit than an over strength problem IMO. That and a strong belief in the KISS principle lol!

:Sharing One:

 

[milk]

Right I have just borrowed a ph meter from a friend. And I have my ph at 7.4 and got it down to 6.4 with orange juice. Is it safe to have that in my system.

worst night of my life. And I getting pissed off at myself . In years I never had a problem with grows but since my shop ran out of sensi bloom I'm fucked.

And im in flowering phase . Why should I use grow in flowering it don't make sense to me ?

 

[ducky098]

I've written something about pH in the General AF Discussion section.
https://www.autoflower.org/f2/ph-questions-30694.html

Bottom line. I think it's safe to use vinegar and baking soda for your acid/base pH adjuster, but for orange juice....I'm not sure what the effects it will have on your plants. Maybe your plants might taste like OJ afterwards?

 

[milk]

Ok thank you dude, ph has gone up to 6.6 now.. I just need 9 hours till the hydro store opens to grab some ph down. What a bloody night . And now I have nutrients burn . Fuckery

 

[az2000]

And im in flowering phase. Why should I use grow in flowering it don't make sense to me?

GH's "grow" designation doesn't really mean high growth NPK ratio. Most of GH's nitrogen comes from the "micro" bottle. In veg, you'd use 2-3x more "grow", so it's smaller nitrogen amount would contribute more. But, in bloom you use 70% less, so the "grow" contributes almost nothing. It seems to be more a placeholder or diluent for the clever 3-2-1, 1-2-3 "magic" proportion (marketing sarcasm).

 

[milk]

Ahh I see. But it's cool to not run grow.. Because I'm not planning on it. If what ur saying is what ur saying then me running micro with bloom is enough

 

[ducky098]

Hey Milk! I know it might be too late, but I wanted to post this up so those who venture onto this post may have some use out of it as well (as well as you too).

I found a cheat sheet (pdf) from growweedeasy, which shows how they planned their nutrient feeding schedule.
It is three pages, and the first two pages are a quick and dirty guide on how to grow, but the last page (is rotated 90 degrees, probably to make it printer friendly) is the feeding schedule based on how they grow their plants.