I had taken the picture after giving the medium a watering i was doing 2 waterings of 300 ml a day is that too much? since its canna coco pro with some perlite mixed i had read a few forums about a light watering 2 or 3 times a day
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I had taken the picture after giving the medium a watering i was doing 2 waterings of 300 ml a day is that too much? since its canna coco pro with some perlite mixed i had read a few forums about a light watering 2 or 3 times a day
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Not sure, I've never grown in canna coco. They just look a little to wet for me. I only do DWC and soil. From the looks of them I'd say back off a little on the watering. Peace My Friend
Hey Irish - Just got a minute to drop back in ans saw your photos.
I agree with pyro - looks a little heavy on the water - too much water at this stage will make them fall over and die (kinda rot).
Some people only use a shot glass worth for first watering and then build up from there - I've tried this and think a shot glass worth may be a little on the small side, but it's close.
They're up so hold off on the water for a day or two and let the tap root sink and search for water. The first 10 days are slow growth on top while the roots get put down, but then you'll see more happening above.
If you can make your roots search for water (and they will if it's there) the root system will be bigger and the plant will be healthier. Make it do some work!
I agree with pyro - looks a little heavy on the water - too much water at this stage will make them fall over and die (kinda rot).
Some people only use a shot glass worth for first watering and then build up from there - I've tried this and think a shot glass worth may be a little on the small side, but it's close.
They're up so hold off on the water for a day or two and let the tap root sink and search for water. The first 10 days are slow growth on top while the roots get put down, but then you'll see more happening above.
If you can make your roots search for water (and they will if it's there) the root system will be bigger and the plant will be healthier. Make it do some work!
I had taken the picture after giving the medium a watering i was doing 2 waterings of 300 ml a day is that too much? since its canna coco pro with some perlite mixed i had read a few forums about a light watering 2 or 3 times a day
- Just re-read this - yes Definately too much! 600ml a day is for a 20-30 day plant!
Feeding multiple times per day with a drip feed will most likely give you better results than hand watering (like i do), but even at day 20, you probaly wont be drip feeding 600ml 3 times a day - that 600 ml will need to be split accross the 3 feedings (so 200ml per feeding)
The trick with drip feeding multiple times a day is "little and often" (or so the drippers say ^_^)
I'm a lazy grower so only want to water once a day at the most. I usually only water once a day from day 40ish (+) and even then i'm basing it on old soil technicques like the "wet and dry cycle" .... which effectiviely is waiting for the pot to become light
You dont want to let your coco completely dry out so it's not so much Wet and Dry ... more Wet and Mildy Damp.
How heavy should it be?! - If you let it completely dry it will be as light as if it were filled with polystyrene balls - you don't want it that light. Pick up your pot when fully watered (but this wont be until you water to run off) and gauge the weight - it's heavy, too heavy to lift with one hand. If your pot is as light a polystyrene - the leaves will almost certainly be droopy and limp - this means she's dying of thirst lol - Don't worry, she'll perk back up with a watering in a couple of hours!Ideally you want to be feeding it before the leave droop - but not constantly wet. When the pot drys our the roots go searching (again bigger root system, better uptake and better plant)
How should i water when it's mildy damp? I always water to run off - water slowly untll you see it slowly dripping out of the bottom of the pot - this will push the salts through that can cause lockout and keep the Root system/leaves/plant happy!
But don't drown the little seedlings you need to build up to that large watering.
Have a read through Truus Coco Thread - he covers drip systems
https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/what-truu-knows-about-coco.20249/
I don't know how to start a seedling with a drip system, so i'd go manually until you have a few sets of true leaves, and maybe set up a dripper from then!
- Just re-read this - yes Definately too much! 600ml a day is for a 20-30 day plant!
Feeding multiple times per day with a drip feed will most likely give you better results than hand watering (like i do), but even at day 20, you probaly wont be drip feeding 600ml 3 times a day - that 600 ml will need to be split accross the 3 feedings (so 200ml per feeding)
The trick with drip feeding multiple times a day is "little and often" (or so the drippers say ^_^)
I'm a lazy grower so only want to water once a day at the most. I usually only water once a day from day 40ish (+) and even then i'm basing it on old soil technicques like the "wet and dry cycle" .... which effectiviely is waiting for the pot to become light
You dont want to let your coco completely dry out so it's not so much Wet and Dry ... more Wet and Mildy Damp.
How heavy should it be?! - If you let it completely dry it will be as light as if it were filled with polystyrene balls - you don't want it that light. Pick up your pot when fully watered (but this wont be until you water to run off) and gauge the weight - it's heavy, too heavy to lift with one hand. If your pot is as light a polystyrene - the leaves will almost certainly be droopy and limp - this means she's dying of thirst lol - Don't worry, she'll perk back up with a watering in a couple of hours!Ideally you want to be feeding it before the leave droop - but not constantly wet. When the pot drys our the roots go searching (again bigger root system, better uptake and better plant)
How should i water when it's mildy damp? I always water to run off - water slowly untll you see it slowly dripping out of the bottom of the pot - this will push the salts through that can cause lockout and keep the Root system/leaves/plant happy!
But don't drown the little seedlings
you need to build up to that large watering.Have a read through Truus Coco Thread - he covers drip systems
https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/what-truu-knows-about-coco.20249/
I don't know how to start a seedling with a drip system, so i'd go manually until you have a few sets of true leaves, and maybe set up a dripper from then!
Hello Irish Grower
Good to see another fellow Irish man on the site.
Sorry to read about your problems dude but its look like Blue and pyrokev are taking care of you.
Let me know when you get your journal going in the new growers section and il sub in for it.
Happy growing dude.
Good to see another fellow Irish man on the site.
Sorry to read about your problems dude but its look like Blue and pyrokev are taking care of you.
Let me know when you get your journal going in the new growers section and il sub in for it.
Happy growing dude.
I had taken the picture after giving the medium a watering i was doing 2 waterings of 300 ml a day is that too much? since its canna coco pro with some perlite mixed i had read a few forums about a light watering 2 or 3 times a day
- Just re-read this - yes Definately too much! 600ml a day is for a 20-30 day plant!
Feeding multiple times per day with a drip feed will most likely give you better results than hand watering (like i do), but even at day 20, you probaly wont be drip feeding 600ml 3 times a day - that 600 ml will need to be split accross the 3 feedings (so 200ml per feeding)
The trick with drip feeding multiple times a day is "little and often" (or so the drippers say ^_^)
I'm a lazy grower so only want to water once a day at the most. I usually only water once a day from day 40ish (+) and even then i'm basing it on old soil technicques like the "wet and dry cycle" .... which effectiviely is waiting for the pot to become light
You dont want to let your coco completely dry out so it's not so much Wet and Dry ... more Wet and Mildy Damp.
How heavy should it be?! - If you let it completely dry it will be as light as if it were filled with polystyrene balls - you don't want it that light. Pick up your pot when fully watered (but this wont be until you water to run off) and gauge the weight - it's heavy, too heavy to lift with one hand. If your pot is as light a polystyrene - the leaves will almost certainly be droopy and limp - this means she's dying of thirst lol - Don't worry, she'll perk back up with a watering in a couple of hours!Ideally you want to be feeding it before the leave droop - but not constantly wet. When the pot drys our the roots go searching (again bigger root system, better uptake and better plant)
How should i water when it's mildy damp? I always water to run off - water slowly untll you see it slowly dripping out of the bottom of the pot - this will push the salts through that can cause lockout and keep the Root system/leaves/plant happy!
But don't drown the little seedlings
Have a read through Truus Coco Thread - he covers drip systems
https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/what-truu-knows-about-coco.20249/
I don't know how to start a seedling with a drip system, so i'd go manually until you have a few sets of true leaves, and maybe set up a dripper from then!
Thanks blue for the advice i learned the hard way and it died off 2 days ago i also planted one bagseed that i got out of some white rhino and read up more forums again and the watering part is spot on think that was the main issue i was having so i tried not watering the bagseed just get some practice in before trying the sweet seeds again and the white rhino is thriving now it was way better then any of my sweet seed attempts. I have only watered the rhino once been about 3 days now i have given it no water so might give it a light 100 ml watering around 12 tonight and leave it again for another 3 or 4 days. I plan now on changing my method i got some Jack magics multi compost with the sea weed extract today. I plan on mxing it up with the coco and perlite for better air and drainage and tomorrow evening ordering some seeds from 00 seeds there cheeseberry and northern lights. Once i get them ill germ 2 bloody skunk 2 nortern lights and 2 of the cheeseberry and stick with the plan of watering every 3 or 4 days also have the 600 watt duel spec light 21 inches above the pots my rhino seems to like it at that hieght leaves have gotten nice and big dropping it from 28 inches above. I should have the set up all started by Tuesday and kick off with my journal then the following week have a few pictures thrown in on the rhino`s progess its on day 4 now dont ask me what happened to one of the leave`s it just never seemed to grow ha
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Cheers Grim Reefer yea i learned from the issues all right my last bloody skunk dropped 2 days ago so tried a different method with a bag seed white rhino and kept away from it only has got the one watering its about 4 days now and looks healthy will just give it the bare watering tonight and leave it again for 3 or 4 days will hopefully have this journal going soon once i get my next order of seeds will use my last 2 bloody skunks and throw in 2 northern lights and 2 cheese berry give myself some options to play around with ha
Looking better now man, sometimes it,best to under water,than over water I think, you can always add more but you can't remove too much water!
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Looking better now man, sometimes it,best to under water,than over water I think, you can always add more but you can't remove too much water!
Yea it took abit more reading to figure out what i was doing wrong so think ill stick with just watering every 3 or 4 days for a couple of weeks and since the compost has about 5 weeks nutrients in it ill let the plants soak up that first then start with small amounts of biobizz`s grow fishmix and sensi`s calmag one i see the flowers ill start adding the top max and bloom formula and phase out using the grow. at the moment i have given only given the rhino root juice and calmag at 1ml each and its only had that one watering and looks like its doing well. The serated leaves lifting up on the plant is that ok yea?
Cheers as well for the rep appreciate it
No problem man. Them thar leaves be praying to the sun god!
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