Help Requested-Not a Clue What This Is !

[A4]

nice catch waira

 

[Waira]

[a420er]- Oy mate! :tiphat: Thank you, I hope I'm on point here, but I'll save the back-patting until brother Stick' here quells this problem, whatever it is! -LOL! ...this has the type of symptoms that just aren't quite specific enough to make a firm diagnosis, so one must go with the most likely suspects otherwise,...which is why I asked him to flag down Sensei X!

 

[StickMan]

Hey Waira- Thanks once again for sharing your expertize with plant physiology, and associated problematic issues.:tiphat:

I'm doing what I can to educate myself in botany, but I need people like you and many others here at AFN to help me on that journey.
Of course with 'hands on training' here at Stickville

Yea, after I really looked at the necrotic spots, it looked more fungal than insect related. Not ruling out Nute toxicity or defc., but running a very well rounded, and well cooked TLO. I did induce some minor nute burn on some of my photos at week 4 in HF while waiting for them to sex out. This looks nothing like that. But we know never to assume aye ?

I will get up at daybreak at check out the spots, per your directions, and proceed from there.

I did cut off the tips of the 2 leaves I found this morning, as they were certainly necrotic anyway.(cut well back of the necrosis).


I will keep you apprised of what's going on, and will PM brother X now. He ALWAYS gets back to be, sometimes within minutes, but as it is almost midnight here on the west coast, I believe he is in an Eastern Time Zone.


Thanks every one else for chiming in.:clap:

 

[DABaracuss]

LOL thats way to advanced for me lol but ill have the info if we get it solved for the future Good info WAIRA!

 

[X]

It's not nute burn. Those who don't use TLO, will not understand how I can say that with 100% confidence, but I can.

Only plant affected thus far out of 20 +

I'll be honest with you, having such a small issue on one of 20+ plants, would barely get my attention if it were mine. It doesn't look like any pest problem I've seen, it looks more fungal to me too. But, it could also be no more than a little natural necrosis, due to the age of the leaf.

I haven't dealt with any fungal issues before, so I have no experience with it. If it were me, I would just pull the bad stuff off for now and watch. Meanwhile, I would also be searching the net to see if I can find anyone out there having a similar issue.

There is a possibility of nute deficiency. I don't know which recipe you used for your TLO. But, I have to agree with Waira, except on one tiny point. I do not use scissors when I trim a plant. It won't come out as pretty, but if you use bare hands/fingers to remove the leaf/stem/etc., you will have even less chance of infecting the plant. If you see it again, I'd try Waira's suggestion unless I found something one the net that addresses this specific issue.

I wouldn't worry about it too much... but, I don't worry about anything too much. Seriously, I don't think you have anything scarey going on here.

 

[StickMan]

There is a possibility of nute deficiency. I don't know which recipe you used for your TLO

Hey X, I used Ls recipe plus some other ingredients. So, I'm quite sure it is not a nute def., but still not assuming anything on my part at this time.

And yes, I agree about nute burn using TLO- Not.

Yea, I know I'm getting overly anal concerning my first grow. That's just part of my nature when I'm doing something new for the first time, overly cautious. I am going to go out now and remove the infected leaves.

Thanks as always brother, for your help and support.:tiphat:

 

[Waira]

Thank you X! It's good to know I won't be testing my malpractice insurance out on this case- LOL!! :tiphat: Stickbro', way better safe than sorry! What I found alarming was how you said the necrosis was progressing quickly in short amount of time... this, and the fact that you use TLO for which nute' issues are very rare, are what tipped the scales toward fungal to my eyes, as well as the 'wet', funky look of the dead tissue with the somewhat wider yellow margin between good and bad tissue; with nute' burn, the tissues at the tip usually whither and dry fast, and margins are minimal (at least initially); with deficiency, tissue death doesn't happen nearly as fast as you observed, and often the tips go chlorotic, maybe some spotting, before they wither....again, initially,...in advanced symptoms everything is worse, but at that point the symptoms are usually bad enough to readily diagnose... let us know what the morning has brought, mate! Leaving a karma clou

 

[StickMan]

a.m.- Update

Went out right after my last post this morning to discover that approximately 30% of the fan leaves on plant were now affected. Most on just 2 tips of each finger of the leaf.

Also discovered a couple of places on outside of leaves in the middle that exhibited the same looking necrotic spots. Removed all necrotic spots . Did not treat with anything yet, as it was already getting too warm and sunny to spray. I do feel like it needs some type of treatment due to the % of leaves and rapid rate of spread.

Could this have anything related to root rot? I do have drain holes in outside bottom of 30 gallon containers, but not positive that there could not be water in the middle of the bottom of container that is just sitting there turning into a 'soup'. I am being very careful with watering, but at this point I am still not ruling anything out.

Just throwing that out there, so I can know for certain how to treat.

Thanks all for your help. I'm continually overwhelmed by you folks here at AFN.

 

[Mr Piggy]

plus some other ingredients.

This is probably your problem. When you deviate from a proven recipe you're going to have different results. It's not so much about enough in the soil, but about the balance of what's in there. Are you using dechlorinated water?

 

[cres]

HighRise-Fast Bionic Guerrilla- (Photo)

Outdoor Grow in TLO (no additional nutes) -30 gallon container.

Only plant affected thus far out of 20 +

First grow, and this particular issue really has me stumped.

Noticed this morning 2 tips on one leaf were necrotic.

Just looked at plant several hours later and it is spreading rapidly.

Thanks as always for the help.

Here are some pics.

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what was the weather like previous to the photo? say the last 5 days...did it rain like hell and cloudy ...then bright sun? If so it could be mild burn from the sun, but that plant is to big for any small issue like this especially if its in a good TLO...