New Grower is she missing something?

[Iheartmj]

First time organic grow. She sprouted above ground July 7. Indoors. Mixture of Espoma Organic Potting Mix & Horticultural Vermiculite, I meant to get Perlite but grabbed the wrong bag Stones slap. Feeding her quarter teaspoon Fish Emulson Fert 5-1-1 & a root stimulator every 7 days or so. Thats all I'm feeding her cuz I had nute problems when I used Flora Nova Grow & Bloom. Always seemed to have a lock out or deficiency when using FN.
She seems to be growing well using only organics but I'm noticing that there is about 4" between where the branchs grow out from the stem and the next branch, sorry I dont know the tech terms. Also noticing the leaves are growing more upwards that outbound. She shouldnt stretch cuz I keep the light very close. She is a Auto 1. Is she mssing something or is this just a trait of Auto 1? Thanks for all help, peace

 

[Nam80232]

She's stretching, what kind of light are you using.

 

[Kanakamaoli808]

Nice plant dude, Try puttying Mylar behind kind of lined on the wall it WILL help with light being reflected towards the lower canopy other then that she looks healthy I wouldn't worry about her height just yet she might surprise you at around the four or fifth node roll the stem and tie it downwards she'll love you for that. well take it easy bro.

Aloha,
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First time organic grow. She sprouted above ground July 7. Indoors. Mixture of Espoma Organic Potting Mix & Horticultural Vermiculite, I meant to get Perlite but grabbed the wrong bag Stones slap. Feeding her quarter teaspoon Fish Emulson Fert 5-1-1 & a root stimulator every 7 days or so. Thats all I'm feeding her cuz I had nute problems when I used Flora Nova Grow & Bloom. Always seemed to have a lock out or deficiency when using FN.
She seems to be growing well using only organics but I'm noticing that there is about 4" between where the branchs grow out from the stem and the next branch, sorry I dont know the tech terms. Also noticing the leaves are growing more upwards that outbound. She shouldnt stretch cuz I keep the light very close. She is a Auto 1. Is she mssing something or is this just a trait of Auto 1? Thanks for all help, peace

 

[Iheartmj]

She's stretching, what kind of light are you using.

I'm using CFLs, I have 3860 lumens above her. I'm keeping the light as close to her as I can w/out burning her. I also have 5 1650 lumen surrounding her.
I'm on a very small budget and pretty much working with what I used on my 1st 2 grows. Very stealth operation, only growing one girl at a time.
Kanakamaoli808, thanks for the input. I'll watch her and tie her down like you said.

 

[cloud]

looks like some serious stretching going on. i find that best way to tell if you can move lights closer is put your hand under it at highest point if it feels like a nice day outside its perfect plus get some reflective materials as it will help as around 30-40% of your yield will be from reflected light

 

[Iheartmj]

looks like some serious stretching going on. i find that best way to tell if you can move lights closer is put your hand under it at highest point if it feels like a nice day outside its perfect plus get some reflective materials as it will help as around 30-40% of your yield will be from reflected light

I have my lights as close as I can w/out touching the leaves, everyday she grows up into the lights. This is the same way I did with 1st 2 grows but this is a different strain. The 1st 2 strains didnt do this. I've noticed the very end of some leaves is brown, it was a couple leaves at 1st now its slowly spreading. I didnt know it wouod be this hard to grow meds, I'm very discouraged

 

[bromhexine]

is it possible she is really a he?

 

[Captain Howdy]

Alllllrighty then, let's start from the beginning.

You say when using Flora Nova nutes you always experience lock out. Do you have a PH meter to read the feed, I notice you don't mention one.

When the leaves grow vertically rather than horizontally it means the plant is reaching, or stretching to the light.... We'll come back to this in a mo....

You say your lumen range is both 3860 and 1650. When looking at bulbs you want a high lumen output for the veg cycle and then lower ones for flowering so what you have right there are bulbs more suited to flowering, you wanna be looking at the 6500K mark.

You said this didn't happen on your last two grows, did you use the same bulbs then as your using now, same set up??
I've made my way through a few basic energy saver bulbs now and they most definately lose a lot of power after the second grow, even during the grow in fact, meaning no matter how close you put your lights to your plant it's not gonna help, you'll only end up burning her.

If you've had these bulbs now for 3 grows it's time to change them and when you do get a nice mix of lumens. 6500(ish) and 2700(ish), doesn't have to match, just showing you what I'm using atm.

If you ever want to spend the £40 on a cheap light here's a link to one I'm using. Dual spectrum so works for both veg and flowering.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dual-125w-Hydroponics-Grow-Light/dp/B009W6MIOY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lp_1

I'm guessing by the dates that almost as I write this she'll be getting ready to show her sex which means you've got very little time to get some weight underneath. Get some new lights and surround her, make sure she's got fresh air blowing on/near her, but surround her with new bulbs and see if you can get the side branching to have a little growth spurt.

Don't give up hope, your first few grows should be about nothing more than learning the art and if you make it to the end with a living plant and even the tiniest bit of bud, your on the way. Think about what you've already learned and then apply it to the next grow, I'm sure you'll do fine dude.
Apart from the stretching, which you knows caused by the lights now and not you, your plant looks perfectly healthy, the next one'll be a breeze..... sort of lol.

:smokebuds:

 

[Iheartmj]

is it possible she is really a he?

I dont think so, I didnt see any balls and their all supposed to be feminized.

Alllllrighty then, let's start from the beginning.

You say when using Flora Nova nutes you always experience lock out. Do you have a PH meter to read the feed, I notice you don't mention one.

I checked ph using GH dye that you put in the water in a vile then match the color.

When the leaves grow vertically rather than horizontally it means the plant is reaching, or stretching to the light.... We'll come back to this in a mo....

I adjusted the lighting and the leaves that were growing vertically are now growing horizontally.

You say your lumen range is both 3860 and 1650. When looking at bulbs you want a high lumen output for the veg cycle and then lower ones for flowering so what you have right there are bulbs more suited to flowering, you wanna be looking at the 6500K mark.

You said this didn't happen on your last two grows, did you use the same bulbs then as your using now, same set up??
I've made my way through a few basic energy saver bulbs now and they most definately lose a lot of power after the second grow, even during the grow in fact, meaning no matter how close you put your lights to your plant it's not gonna help, you'll only end up burning her.

Yep using same bulbs and I think loss of power is the problem or at least part of the problem.

If you've had these bulbs now for 3 grows it's time to change them and when you do get a nice mix of lumens. 6500(ish) and 2700(ish), doesn't have to match, just showing you what I'm using atm.

6500ish for veg, 2700ish for flowering?

If you ever want to spend the �40 on a cheap light here's a link to one I'm using. Dual spectrum so works for both veg and flowering.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dual-125w-Hydroponics-Grow-Light/dp/B009W6MIOY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lp_1

I will check that website cuz my Lowes has a poor selection of bulbs or maybe the bulbs I need would be in the garden section, I've been looking in the lighting area.

I'm guessing by the dates that almost as I write this she'll be getting ready to show her sex which means you've got very little time to get some weight underneath. Get some new lights and surround her, make sure she's got fresh air blowing on/near her, but surround her with new bulbs and see if you can get the side branching to have a little growth spurt.

She is supposed to be feminized, she wont show her sex will she? I do have a occilating fan set where it briefly blows on her. I think part of my problem is I'm growing in a closet and I must keep it very stealth so I can only open the closet door a few hours each day for fresh air, same applies to caring for her. Temps range from 74-90, RH 16%-45%. I have 2 large containers of water near the plant to help keep RH up

Don't give up hope, your first few grows should be about nothing more than learning the art and if you make it to the end with a living plant and even the tiniest bit of bud, your on the way. Think about what you've already learned and then apply it to the next grow, I'm sure you'll do fine dude.
Apart from the stretching, which you knows caused by the lights now and not you, your plant looks perfectly healthy, the next one'll be a breeze..... sort of lol.

My 1st grow produced some buds but nowhere near its potential, I got desperate and starting clipping early. The quality was very good tho. My 2nd grow was a disaster!! She had all kinds of nute problems and I was in a state of mind that I didnt care so she died and I got a few buds and the quality was awful. I thought by going organic I wouldnt have so many problems. She started off doing real well then I guess lighting became an issue and here we are :-((. I'm planning on doing TOL next grow.
I thought I posted this somewhere but I cant find the post, she has developed small brown areas at the very tip of her leaves and some leaf tips are pointing down. I find different options in the pictures of nute problems so I'm not sure whats going on? I really appreciate your help and encouragement I just need to get my head in good place.

:smokebuds:[/QUOTE]

 

[Nam80232]

Can you post some pics of the affected leafs for us to have a look see at?