Leaf clawing/curling

[MrAutoGrower]

Anyone know whats going on here? Im not sure if its from a nitrogen deficiency, over watering, leaf tucking, or heat stress.

I'm running 240w kingbrite led, temps max at 28 degrees but usually around 23-24.

I had to perform a flush like 4 days ago from extremely high PPMS from the precharged codo. Coco batch i got was very hot!

Been feeding AN Coco Bloom A and B. 3ml max. Haven't used their Grow

 

[blue]

Anyone know whats going on here? Im not sure if its from a nitrogen deficiency, over watering, leaf tucking, or heat stress.

I'm running 240w kingbrite led, temps max at 28 degrees but usually around 23-24.

I had to perform a flush like 4 days ago from extremely high PPMS from the precharged codo. Coco batch i got was very hot!

Been feeding AN Coco Bloom A and B. 3ml max. Haven't used their Grow

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Hi there! How's your PH sitting? ^_^

If it's heat stress the leaves will go like a canoe \_/
If it's Nitrogen TOX (not def) , the leaves will claw down (and probably be a dark green for excess N)
Nitrogen Def will show as pale green leaves (but PH could have locked out the N so check that first)

If the foods to strong, the leave tips will burn and progressively get worse.

I'd be looking at the PH personally!
Hope the helps with diagnosis!

 

[MrAutoGrower]

Hi there! How's you're PH? ^_^

If it's heat stress the leaves will go like a canoe \_/
If it's Nitrogen TOX (not def) , the leaves will claw down (and probably be a dark green for excess N)

If the foods to strong, the leave tips will burn and progressively get worse.

I'd be looking at the PH personally!
Hope the helps with diagnosis!

My light was a little close. Had to pull out the measuring tape and adjust height and dimmed it down to 50%.

The plant hasn't been fed in days. I didn't want to because it still seems pretty heavy from the flush.

I feel like if I feed again its waterlogging the roots. But with coco, the ph can mess around.

So it might be rising since it hasn't had a fresh feed in like 4 days. But the coco is still wet.

In order for me to get the ph, i will have to feed until run off again and i fear it will cause mroe issues from over feeding. People say you cant over water in coco, but roots could drown if theyre left too long in a lot of water i reckon.

What so you suggest bud?

 

[blue]

My light was a little close. Had to pull out the measuring tape and adjust height and dimmed it down to 50%.

The plant hasn't been fed in days. I didn't want to because it still seems pretty heavy from the flush.

I feel like if I feed again its waterlogging the roots. But with coco, the ph can mess around.

So it might be rising since it hasn't had a fresh feed in like 4 days. But the coco is still wet.

In order for me to get the ph, i will have to feed until run off again and i fear it will cause mroe issues from over feeding. People say you cant over water in coco, but roots could drown if theyre left too long in a lot of water i reckon.

What so you suggest bud?

Hmmm - I'd check with @St. Tom .. If your plant is big enough the coco should hold enough oxygen for the plant not to drown. The issue with drenching a seedling is that the roots won't go searching (which is not great - leaves a small root system = small plant)

I can't seem the full plant, but looks beg enough for me to have a go! ^_^ - just don't let it sit in the run off water.

Did you feed it with nutes after the flush? If not, then it's going to be hungry.

It's been a long time since my last coco grow, so you may feel better getting PH advice from Tom or one of the other regular coco growers!

 

[MrAutoGrower]

Hmmm - I'd check with @St. Tom .. If your plant is big enough the coco should hold enough oxygen for the plant not to drown. The issue with drenching a seedling is that the roots won't go searching (which is not great - leaves a small root system = small plant)

I can't seem the full plant, but looks beg enough for me to have a go! ^_^ - just don't let it sit in the run off water.

Did you feed it with nutes after the flush? If not, then it's going to be hungry.

It's been a long time since my last coco grow, so you may feel better getting PH advice from Tom or one of the other regular coco growers!

Hmmm - I'd check with @St. Tom .. If your plant is big enough the coco should hold enough oxygen for the plant not to drown. The issue with drenching a seedling is that the roots won't go searching (which is not great - leaves a small root system = small plant)

I can't seem the full plant, but looks beg enough for me to have a go! ^_^ - just don't let it sit in the run off water.

Did you feed it with nutes after the flush? If not, then it's going to be hungry.

It's been a long time since my last coco grow, so you may feel better getting PH advice from Tom or one of the other regular coco growers!

Indeed. I did give it a feeding. I have attached a picture of the entire plant. Its just reached its 4th week. Ive had some issues with my coco being hot. I suppose i will feed it again at 3ml coco bloom a and b from advanced nutrients. But no doubt it will take a bit until i get run off. I have bakers trays on my pot catchers so they never sit in run off. The tips are slightly yellow I've noticed. My first run off was 1.2k PPM which was ridiculous man. That was from a fresh batch of Ecothrive Coco Lite that comes precharged with "Charge". They said its fine for seedlings but no chance in hell will i ever use it again. It burned two seedlings of mine. So i flushed them all down. I will never use that stuff again.

Here is the entire plant:

The white powder is Diotomacious earth

 

[St. Tom]

My light was a little close. Had to pull out the measuring tape and adjust height and dimmed it down to 50%.

The plant hasn't been fed in days. I didn't want to because it still seems pretty heavy from the flush.

I feel like if I feed again its waterlogging the roots. But with coco, the ph can mess around.

So it might be rising since it hasn't had a fresh feed in like 4 days. But the coco is still wet.

In order for me to get the ph, i will have to feed until run off again and i fear it will cause mroe issues from over feeding. People say you cant over water in coco, but roots could drown if theyre left too long in a lot of water i reckon.

What so you suggest bud?

You need to change the food bro that she's got in her pot so from now on go on half strength feed and feed her to run off get some colour in her leaves also long as your pH is going in don't worry about checking the run off unless there are problems but you now at your age want to give her a nutrient rich diet with food in every watering

 

[YoungGrassh0pper]

Do you presoak your coco prior to planting the seedling? It should help with the coco being too hot. Give your plant a recharge bath to hit reset and go with @St. Tom advice. Go half strength on nutes.

 

[MrAutoGrower]

You need to change the food bro that she's got in her pot so from now on go on half strength feed and feed her to run off get some colour in her leaves also long as your pH is going in don't worry about checking the run off unless there are problems but you now at your age want to give her a nutrient rich diet with food in every watering

My light is more on the warm color temp so it does make them look a bit more yellow on camera. They are pretty green though.

 

[blue]

I suppose i will feed it again at 3ml coco bloom a and b from advanced nutrients

Toms got you covered with the best advice.

I'd look at that bottle of feed too. Seems a bit early for Bloom nutes as they'll be Light in N .. which is what your plant looks like it's lacking!


edit: Just saw your other photos - doesn't look so yellow - but could still green up a bit!

 

[MrAutoGrower]

Do you presoak your coco prior to planting the seedling? It should help with the coco being too hot. Give your plant a recharge bath to hit reset and go with @St. Tom advice. Go half strength on nutes.

No bro. I never presoaked it because the coco brand said it doesn't need presoaked. But obviously it did considering the ppms were sky high since i planted them.

@blue i decided to go with bloom because @AracumbaAutoflowers on youtube uses it and he grows monsters. He doesn't use the grow line because he tended to have more issues with using that.. npk is 4.4.5