Indoor LST Hub

[Hugo]

Cool! She's only 2 month old, about to be due late October / start of November, so it's too soon for buds!

This a sativa/indica hybrid so it might be just like that Santa of yours. I'm going to play it safe anyway, keeping my new shoots lower than my main stem. I'm going to do a cornucopia to keep the apical stem above all others and then I'll lower it in one easy step bringing all the auxins to the same level

No problem mate, but don't forget that the stems respond to lst as the flowers do so the stem with the most bud growth will basically become the main stem... my buds aren't big enough for me to worry about that anyway lol

The santa is very sativa dominant and I'm 90% sure it's a santa maria hybrid, hence the name. You're going to like that mohan ram, she's a beaut.

 

[BigBuddha]

Hey maybe they watered the pots by having the plant grow out of a hole in the side of the pot and then you could just water as per usual.

It's just like believing in god.. you don't understand how it works and lots of things are left unexplained.. so you just have to have faith because otherwise it's physically impossible and makes no sense at all!

I thought I would add some pics of my first attempt at LST.

And they're most welcome, as are you to the Hub, Scoobs. Thanks for adding your snaps man there's some nice work there. In that first snap.. the plant on the far left.. is that a coir pot standing up out of soil or am I hallucinating again?

I've really got to make the effort to drill holes in my pots like you have because it'll save so much facking about with tape, which is actually quite easy as it is! So yeah.. thanks for the reminder to get off my fat ass and sort them out. I mainly use airpots which are fuill of holes already.. but my normal pots could do with a spruce-up!

 

[Hugo]

Then you've come in the right spirit. If you have naked pictures of women to share, too, they won't go amiss.

Love my naked girls! if you repeat that I might take you serious!

Nice work fella. On your next grow you may want to try starting the first bend just above the first set of fan leaves rather than under the first round ones, as it seems to shift the auxins to the stem faster to support the first set of petitoles.

I've also found the the higher up we go for the first bend the fatter the lower stalk seems to get in the end, but that's only really applicable to long-vegging photos as it takes time to build stalk. I reckon that's because higher up means there's more growth below to beef-up so the plant produces shitloads more auxins. << Just guessing there.

I did start the bend after the first set of true leaves! Ehehe! I had a pH issue a month ago and I lost the first and the second pair of fan leafs. That's why it looks like I have started too low. The stem is so thick by now! It's like a thumb thick! :thumbs: My string is marking the stem though, so I lowered the anchor a lil bit to aliviate the tension.

Difficult one to answer but I'll have a go..

Although training causes more auxins to focus on one or more areas.. it doesn't completely halt it in the rest of the plant and it usually takes a matter of days before it's balanced out again. But this is what we want, really.. to open up the plant and then wait for the auxins to balance out again so that we get more even canopies and wotnot.

We actually get a lot of control over her growth patterns so we can sort of delay one side of the plant while encouraging the other to get higher, or even out. Once the canopy becomes more even it sort of stabilises growth all over and just bushes out thereafter as all the main colas are getting an even amount of light.


I know what I'm trying to say I just don't know if it's making sense to the reader so if it isn't please feel free to ask for a better attempt

I think I know what you're trying to say. How would you stop growth in one side of the plant at the moment I'm at? I think I'd like to do it untill I circle all the pot. Is it possible? Maybe by covering from the sun the rest of the canopy and only allowing the main stem to catch light? I dunno... Throwing stuff up in the air! Did you catch it?

Cheers for your post man.

It's my pleasure!

 

[Scoobert Doo]

Hi BigBuddha and thanks.
I'm not sure what a coir pot is but they are 5 " peat pots. These last 2 rounds I have taken to putting 2 seeds in each 5" pot (full of soil) and then i stick them in a plastic tray with lid (jiffy seed starter thing) and stick it in the north facing garden window above the sink. I have routinely been having my BB seeds sprout in 4-5 days. I then take them and bury em in the 7l pots a little bit.

I forgot to say that the big one i just took down was 33".

 

[insert name here]

9 days later....

Hey folks,

Hope you are all very well. Just a little update on the AutoBlueberry LST experiment. All I can say is that I am amazed.... Like mouth dropping open tongue hangin out amazed. I can compare this to my tundra grow at around the same stage, and the "growth" of the plant may be a little behind, but in terms of TOPS, this plant is budding out. There are more than 30 "tops" that are growing. I have been on top of this one every day and doing alot of leaf tucking. Hope that she makes it too the end(its hot here)

Probably the coolest thing about this is that both of the plants are the same height, even though they are about two weeks apart in developement. They are around 20-25cm tall

Comments, suggestions always welcome

 

[Hugo]

Beautiful garden insert!

I don't have a comment or suggestion, because your doing everything right I do have a question. If you hadn't LSTd those babies how do you reckon they'd be doing? It's paying out ain't it?

LST all the way

 

[insert name here]

I think that they would be doing great, however they would be very tall at this point. All of those buds that are at the top now would be much lower and receiving less light. More work, but yes, definitely worth it!:dance:

 

[Hugo]

Time for a picture update guys

Sensi Seeds NL#5xHaze

I've just been working on her LST. There's a couple of things I'm having some difficulties to figure out with her:

1) Her lateral nodes are quite long and the growth is really quick. She's growing way beyond the vase diameter. I was trying to keep it inside but I guess due to her sativa genetics she's not seeing eye to eye with me about being bushier.

-----------------Before today's LST--------------------------------------After today's LST---------------------

2) Her first bend was fairly close to the ground so the long stem growth mentioned above is making some leafs touch the soil. I'm working this out by allowing her to grow in height, like in a cornucopia.

3) This solves another problem I was having with some lateral stems growing taller than the main stem and becoming apical.

4) She started to grow the petioles at different heights. I thought this would only happen at flowering but evidently not.

Comments are encouraged!

 

[Greenview]

Great thread, Hugo, and a favorite topic. I have a Lowryder 2 and two Sweet Afghan Delicious autos going in a small space that you'll see in a sec. I cropped the LR2 early and trained her to have ten tops, while simultaneously reading it was a horrible idea and would kill my yield, which of course didn't stop me from growing it out. I found it beefed her up, as someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, and I was happy. But then to add insult to injury, i split the main stem in half and and one main branch that hung on by a thread, so poured molasses in the breach, tied and taped her back together and she didn't blink. Here she is at 45 days, a couple of weeks into flower. The SADs (34 and 29 days) i decided not to train, but the little one was going bonsai so I simply tied her main top down. I think I'll tie down her side branches now, just for stability's sake, and the four high colas of the LR2. The big SAD I promised not to screw with.
This is my first post, nice to meet you all, happy growing and thanks for the great tips. Great idea to have a site dedicated to Autos, as they can be so frowned upon in other forums.
My questions are two: Does LST, and especially cropping, slow down the start of flowering or push back harvest with autos? I'm asking because I have a definite end date, July 21, and it doesn't look like they'll be close. I'd like to train the four top colas on the LR2, and knowing myself I will, but I don't want her to A) Break Again or B) slow down too much while she adjusts her chemical balance.
What is your all's opinion on LSTing all through flower?
Thanks for this thread, and yeeha smoking some Channel Plus; really dense, strong, happy sativa, I think. Great karma to you for spreading the word, gv

 

[insert name here]

Going into the sixth week now

Just a quick update for the lst hub The Auto Blueberry from dutch Passion is really budding out strong. She has more than 30 tops, and she is growing well budwise, her stretch has stopped. The Auto Skunk Mass from advance3d seeds got a little bit outta control, I was gone for four days and she blew up. She was stunted and butterflyed on the second set of true leaves, now look at her. The first pics are the Blue berry and the last two are the ASM