New Grower Newb grower autoflower indoor single 125w cfl tomorite miracle gro (feedback please!)

[SkatterBrayne]

I thought colder water makes it so that more air can get in the water and thats one reason DWC use chillers the lower the temp the more air it can hold .

High reservoir temperatures provide an ideal environment for bad bacteria like pythium to thrive. Mid 60s is the sweet spot in terms of Dissolved Oxygen, as well as bring a comfortable temp for roots to thrive (And keep the baddies dormant). I believe dissolved oxygen levels with respect to temperature is a bell curve, with inadequate amounts of oxygen being present on both of the extreme ends of the spectrum.

My last grow took place in an unheated basement. All I had was my dehumidifier and the lights to regulate my temps. The girls.never saw a day over 65. With an inoculated medium, loads of silica, and foliage feeding I was able to keep them thriving but once you get into the low 50s the plants really start to shut down on the metabolic level.

Anyway, I definitely wouldn't advise ice water. Stick your hand in a bucket of ice water, and think about how long it will take for that water to warm up to a temperature that won't be painful. That's how long your plants most sensitive and important area will be exposed to those conditions. You probably won't kill it, but I can't imagine it NOT stressing the plant out significantly.

A good rule of thumb is the environment causes discomfort to you, it won't be good for your plants. Whether it be intense heat from close proximity lighting, or freezing water sitting in a pot with your root system.

Also, like Dab said, you are at the very least a few weeks away. She still has quite a bit of growth to go before she will be ready

 

[MythticalMagic]

@skatterbrayne thats the confusion though. I think it would make sense to ice flush a few days before cropping then add dark for 3days. Maybe?

Also, the leaves are wilting (maybe temperature or overwatering) a little but I got VERY impatient an took a bud lol.
Obviously it wasnt great but I was confused. Usually the buds a little musty/mouldy smelling (no signs of moss or mould) and very sweet when gently squeezed. This bud, once removed had NO weed like smell at all.
Just a wet grass smell.
I dried it an smoked it an again, nothing at all.
Im aware its early, not flushed, cured etc but im still just wondering why this is?
Thinkin I might begin my flush an water period now as they only have about 2weeks left (according to the seedbank...).

Btw here are the pics I took with the iphone microscope:

 

[MythticalMagic]

High reservoir temperatures provide an ideal environment for bad bacteria like pythium to thrive. Mid 60s is the sweet spot in terms of Dissolved Oxygen, as well as bring a comfortable temp for roots to thrive (And keep the baddies dormant). I believe dissolved oxygen levels with respect to temperature is a bell curve, with inadequate amounts of oxygen being present on both of the extreme ends of the spectrum.

My last grow took place in an unheated basement. All I had was my dehumidifier and the lights to regulate my temps. The girls.never saw a day over 65. With an inoculated medium, loads of silica, and foliage feeding I was able to keep them thriving but once you get into the low 50s the plants really start to shut down on the metabolic level.

Anyway, I definitely wouldn't advise ice water. Stick your hand in a bucket of ice water, and think about how long it will take for that water to warm up to a temperature that won't be painful. That's how long your plants most sensitive and important area will be exposed to those conditions. You probably won't kill it, but I can't imagine it NOT stressing the plant out significantly.

A good rule of thumb is the environment causes discomfort to you, it won't be good for your plants. Whether it be intense heat from close proximity lighting, or freezing water sitting in a pot with your root system.

Also, like Dab said, you are at the very least a few weeks away. She still has quite a bit of growth to go before she will be ready

Thanks for that info! Thats the point I think though.
To shock the plant into thinking its dying causing it to produce more trichomes in an attempt to survive (dont take as gospel lol just something I read and saw on youtube)
But I hear you though. Might not be necessary if they're still young.

 

[wwwillie]

Hey!
Did a little homework and indeed the ice water flush is something that folks do. I was surprised to say the least. MM had the right of it, darkness and the stress of the cold is supposed to increase resin output. Most of what I saw agreed with it. Hers a link to a YouTube http://http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt0IsbqjkXo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBt0IsbqjkXo
I don't know if it is something I will try, I only have the one tent a no place to make a dark room for them.

I agree it is tough to decide just when to harvest. That's a reason why I am trying to document and photograph the heck out of the plants. I'll post some more tonight. If yours don't look as done as mine the you'll definitely have some time to go.

On snipping off a trial bit, I have read that it's important to dry properly over a period of day as you would dry after a normal harvest. Otherwise wet or quick dried doesn't really work and tastes bad.

 

[SkatterBrayne]

There may be some credence to it, because I have personally seen stress impact resin production. If you want to try it, do it during the FINAL days , while leaving them in the dark.

I would wait atleast another week before beginning a flush. Normally they go a little longer than the seedbank timetable.I would do a normal flush for 5-7 days before trying the ice flush. You want to make sure her system is nice and clean before shocking the root system like that. After she is totally flushed, I don't see the harm in it.

As for the sample, that's not uncommon. But you didn't feel ANYTHING? She may look like she's coming along, but that may be a sign that she isn't quite there. Normally even on samples you will catch a buzz. Taste and smell are another story though.

 

[MythticalMagic]

There may be some credence to it, because I have personally seen stress impact resin production. If you want to try it, do it during the FINAL days , while leaving them in the dark.

I would wait atleast another week before beginning a flush. Normally they go a little longer than the seedbank timetable.I would do a normal flush for 5-7 days before trying the ice flush. You want to make sure her system is nice and clean before shocking the root system like that. After she is totally flushed, I don't see the harm in it.

As for the sample, that's not uncommon. But you didn't feel ANYTHING? She may look like she's coming along, but that may be a sign that she isn't quite there. Normally even on samples you will catch a buzz. Taste and smell are another story though.

Yh that would make more sense with the ice flush.
As for the smoke.. NOTHING at all. I was surprised cos its quite frosty...

 

[MythticalMagic]

Yh seems like its worth a try to me. The link didn't work though.
As for the sample I did kinda rush it through.
Had it directly under a fan for a few hours.

 

[MythticalMagic]

So heres how my leaves look.. Could be temperature or overwatering but the general light brown colour I think suggests its nearing time to harvest..?

 

[AndyBotwin]

So heres how my leaves look.. Could be temperature or overwatering but the general light brown colour I think suggests its nearing time to harvest..?

A healthy plant nearing harvest time will suck the nutrients out of the fan leaves and they'll go yellow and then brown in a fairly uniform manner. The spotty necrosis on your leaves seems to be a sign that the plant is struggling, but without reading your whole thread I don't know exactly what the deficiency is.

 

[MythticalMagic]

A healthy plant nearing harvest time will suck the nutrients out of the fan leaves and they'll go yellow and then brown in a fairly uniform manner. The spotty necrosis on your leaves seems to be a sign that the plant is struggling, but without reading your whole thread I don't know exactly what the deficiency is.

Hey man,
I honestly couldn't tell you. Everything's been basically the same from the beginning except I added a 135w cfl and put my original 125w cfl in between the plants at mid height which is why I suspect heat damage.