Pruning vs no pruning experiment

[Chronic_passion]

Alright guys hope ya growing great.... Just a quick question... I have a lady LSD 25 who's is on day 38. I have not lst her or defoliated any leaves.... What would you recommend me to do with her at this stage. She's getting tall and not letting any light in to the lower leaves. Any advice is greatly appreciated

She looks good to me. I'd just leave her as is and keep up the good work. If you really felt like tinkering then do some LST but leave those solar panels in place

 

[Geordiejesus]

She looks good to me. I'd just leave her as is and keep up the good work. If you really felt like tinkering then do some LST but leave those solar panels in place

Cheers for the reply grow bro! Yeah that's what I thought too. I didn't want to do any lst to this on and see how she pans out. I did fimm her over a week ago which I do believed I might have missed lol

 

[Geordiejesus]

Fuck I missed?

 

[Blackbeard32]

I defoliate sometimes heavily. Actually the more LST I do the more I defoliate, even cutting most sugar leaves. Practice has shown that the more light and air you provide the more the buds develop.
My current grow is SOG with no LST. I have defoliated 3 times and all big fan leaves are gone. This caused my buds to swell because they were exposed to more light. Next week I will do the last defoliation session removing all the leaves that stem out of buds and only sugar leaves will remain.
Leaves are important and they are the ones that are sucking the nutrients upwards in the plant. Indoors you don't need so many because the light comes from a standard angle and the dangers like leaf eating animals are minimal.
What you need to do is make sure that you maintain leaves above the nodes that will produce buds. They will draw all the nutrients towards their branch (or the main line stem), but buds that are before then on the way will get most of them. Buds themselves cannot do that for most of the time. It is root development that regulates this.
At the latest stages of flowering, roughly the last 2 weeks before flushing, leaves don't play any role any more. If you have a strong root system and the plant is well fed then buds by now are swollen enough to have the capability to draw nutrients upwards. Photosynthesis begins to play a minimal role in feeding and the plant is going to be chopped anyhow. The roots send everything needed, carbs and minerals straight to the buds. Nitrogen seizes to be absorbed and everything goes to the flower/fruit development, a process that with no photosynthesis can last basically for 2 weeks. You can observe this in nature in tomatoes that die out and with no leaves they give everything to ripen their fruit. Actually this is also good for taste.
If you don't intervene your buds will stay small and underdeveloped.
Outdoors is different. Yet there is still room for light defoliation, but concentrated on leaves that block buds' access to light. Outdoors you must keep leaves to exploit the movement of the sun.

W

Hey thought your post was very informative and useful, just one question, is that from your own personal experience growing And do you have any info that elaborate on the science behind it?

 

[Blackbeard32]

I exist... lol.... I don't post much anymore due to old age catching up with me... my eyesight is now shot and I'm losing manual dexterity rapidly... but I am still breathing so I am still growing...



Those are all autos and each is a different strain.

I get even better results with defol on photos from seed but you have to go radical on photos and almost defol back to a bare stick... I doubt I could keep up on photos anymore which is fine since I love autos and haven't done a photo in several years.

April of this year marks 55 years that I have been continuously growing weed, so yes, I have done numerous side by sides and I have experimented with most everything that can be experimented with... including defol.

There are a few private breeder boards that I did defol tutorial grows on so they are documented out there.

And if I remember right I taught a couple of current mods here how to do this 3 or 4 years back...

Hey @Dudeski did I show you and a few others how I did this at one point a few years back or is my heavily medicated mind mixing up forums ?

Anyway... Quality and flavor also seem to benefit greatly with my style of defol... I make lots of hash so I go for frost and yield and my style of defol enhances both greatly.

I routinely get 8 to 10 zips from a midsize auto and will easily top a pound with at least one or two midsize each year. With Small strains I average around 4 zips.... and I just finished up a 1.4 lb GG4 last grow

I hold the weight records for a few strains each from several different breeders... most are on private forums but if you are on Stones forum ask him if this is still the case: the last I knew I held the weight record for 4 or 5 of his strains. And I only grew 4 or 5 of his strains.

Needless to say it took a couple of years to dial it all in to get these results.

I used to joke around with @trailanimal about someday doing this to an AU so I can break a kg with an indoor auto grow.... might still try it if I keep breathing long enough... who knows.

I lost all my cool badges when they switched servers and I'm too old to worry about earning anymore... I do miss my LB badge... but I'd really like a kg auto badge.... hahaha :smoking:

Peace
Hash

Congrats on the 55 years dude I am about to start year 1 of growing myself. I came to a realization why hadn't I done this long before now a few months ago. My irlfriand and mom both suffer from chronic issue; chronic back pain from a wreck for my mom plus a few and chronic pancreatitis for my girlfriend. Since starting research I have gotten hooked on the science and benefit. I intend to try to start with a Gorilla Glue variety, Narcotic kush, Candy Kush, and Lemon Zkittle. I know I am rambling a bit, but thought it was a pretty awesome you grew that weight. thanks to everyone else for the useful info as well!!✌

 

[TXcase]

I prune everything based off what I’ve seen from other journals. About once every two weeks. Maybe that’s overkill but I’m happy with the progress being a first timer.

 

[Kinezokyprios]

W

Hey thought your post was very informative and useful, just one question, is that from your own personal experience growing And do you have any info that elaborate on the science behind it?

Practice makes better. I grow cannabis, systematically and intensively or not, for the past 35 years. For the scientific part I can rely on my brother and sister that have postgraduate degrees in agricultural studies but what matters is practice not theory. A systematic practice with detailed notes can lead you better than a theoretic approach, especially in countries were growing is illegal so you cannot hire a scientific specialist on a regular or ad hoc basis to guide you. Experiment and trial is what would lead you to your personal version of success.