Live Stoner Chat The Death of Freedom.

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Sorry to see you go man. It really sucks it seems like some people just find it hard to be rational. I enjoyed your posts and I actually agreed with a lot of what you said earlier in that thread. Just want you to know that not all of us are sheep. Though I'm going to stfu now before I get banned for standing up for whats right.

Peace bro.


I'm on the other side, leaning towards believing that 75 watts will be able to replace a 300 watt led unit, but I've always been optimistic. I believe the technology is there especially after seeing how their rebel upgrades performed and what Tang accomplishes with them! I'm a big fan of hearing both sides of it!
 
It's taking everything I have not to jump in here with a very substantial post. Gloom and Freiya - let's just leave it here I beg of you.
 
I'm on the other side, leaning towards believing that 75 watts will be able to replace a 300 watt led unit, but I've always been optimistic. I believe the technology is there especially after seeing how their rebel upgrades performed and what Tang accomplishes with them! I'm a big fan of hearing both sides of it!



I'm a pessimist at heart ;(

I don't believe it will work that way BUT I think it would be badass if it did. I feel something that big would get copied sooner rather than latter and we all will benefit. Competition brings better prices and products (most of the time lol). All of us growers will benefit! =)
 
It's taking everything I have not to jump in here with a very substantial post. Gloom and Freiya - let's just leave it here I beg of you.


doesn't matter to me man, right is right and wrong is wrong. There is obviously a right and wrong in this situation and I really don't believe it can be argued with any post. Either the guy flamed and broke rules or he didn't and he clearly didn't.
 
I'm a pessimist at heart ;(

I don't believe it will work that way BUT I think it would be badass if it did. I feel something that big would get copied sooner rather than latter and we all will benefit. Competition brings better prices and products (most of the time lol). All of us growers will benefit! =)

I agree, and I'd probably buy one of the GN's and one of the copies whenever they came out to compare, like I did with my Hydrogrow and Bysen leds.
 
doesn't matter to me man, right is right and wrong is wrong. There is obviously a right and wrong in this situation and I really don't believe it can be argued with any post. Either the guy flamed and broke rules or he didn't and he clearly didn't.

And this is exactly why it's not worth writing a substantial post, you and Gloom both refuse to see reason.
 
It's taking everything I have not to jump in here with a very substantial post. Gloom and Freiya - let's just leave it here I beg of you.

What could you possibly add of substance here? I already got banned for having an opinion, and yours is obviously more valid than mine, so go ahead and share it. Of course if it doesn't line up with the opinion of a person in a position of power, you may be banned for it...but hey yolo right?
 
Freiya, this is a simple salient fact: regular Mods have no power to ban anybody, period,... This action is reviewed by Supers and Admin., discussed, and most important, a given members history, good and/or bad, is taken into full account,... It may sound and feel satisfying to flame and blame the Mods, but the reality is such actions are outside the scope of our 'powers" and duties,... believe me, there is plenty of differing opinion amongst the entire staff, there no sycophants or posers,... the person in question here has been on the radar several times before, and much has been let slide,... ( only really grievous violations of the terms, which every member agrees to as actual members, will get somebody bounced immediately).... but after a certain point there is no more slack, rightfully so,...*** vendors get no special treatment either... if you knew the fine folks in Admin., especially Aunty Mossy, for whom this site was made, you'd trust in their integrity... stuff like all-- this-- pains her, literally,... I'm no chest beater myself either... look me up-- you'll find no war drums beating in my camp! I only comment when things become utterly distorted ..
Does GN run this forum? are you all shills? why does everyone have to hype up gn or they get banned?
:no: comments like this are exactly what I mean... opine all you want, that's fine, but do not accuse blindly, making sweeping negative generalizations about all of us,.. and bring pain to our founder,....
 
And this is exactly why it's not worth writing a substantial post, you and Gloom both refuse to see reason.


Because it's so reasonable to ban someone for posting their opinion on a light thats not even out yet in a thread full of people posting their opinions on the very same light. lol.

The ONLY argument you can possibly make is that the mods can basically do whatever they want and we should just get over it. That still doesn't make their actions right though. So you would still be wrong.
 
And this is exactly why it's not worth writing a substantial post, you and Gloom both refuse to see reason.

To be fair gloom and fre have both been substantial in their posts explaining the situation and actions to rejoin the forum to post, and they have made a reasonable argument against any flaming. But again, I don't know past history and offenses as pointed out so it's none of my business anyway. Goodnight.
 
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