Indoor Think Different - 400w MH / 600w HPS / Coco / Ionic Nutes

[barcelonafc]

Looks like I got Thripes Peeps... Aghhhh

I have sprayed all the plants with a mixture of Pyrethrum insecticide, copper and sulfur... 100% bio apparently... Hopefully this should make them better...

 

[thefunk]

Ooh those little buggers! hope that stuff has zapped them!

 

[barcelonafc]

Just received an email from canna regarding the messed up order from my grow shop and using cogr nutes -

Thank you very much for the question!

I am sorry to tell you, but the COGR nutrients (Vega and Flores) can cause problems on the Coco Plus substrate.
You will see in time, Potassium excess or Calsium (later) deficiency or Magnesium (beginning) deficiency
Please ask if you can change this for the Coco A/B.
The additives you can keep like the Rhizotonic, PK13/14, Cannazym and Boost.

My grow shop have basically told me to go jump of a bridge regarding getting the nutes changed.... And I cant afford to buy new stuff

Gonna continue anyway... and see how it goes

 

[barcelonafc]

Ooh those little buggers! hope that stuff has zapped them!

Me too mate, guess well find out over the next couple of days...

 

[Groff]

Man, f*ck! your grow shop.

Hang in there, we'll all be here to sort this out. Not that I am the most knowledgeable person right now to give advice, but I would start by doing a 1/4 dose feed and slowly take it up. With this info we can start looking for some "DIY" nutrient alternatives, like molasses later for flowering, dung tea, etc...

Or, hold on! You could buy a couple of COGR slabs, that would be MUCH cheaper buying nutes. Transplant would stress a bit, I suspect less than with other mediums, but in the long run it would be totally worth it! Just throwing ideas around...

But right now lets kill those nasties!!

You can also go out and buy rollup tobacco. Boil it for 5 minutes and strain in with a coffee filter for some foliar bug killer. I've seen this one thrown around quite a bit, saw a friend do it too a couple years back, but it was a whole recipe with chilli peppers and what not. Anyone got info on this?

 

[barcelonafc]

Groffuwiwi,, nice to have you onboard mate.... Have given a spray yesterday with the bottle you can see in the post above... Will give a second spray with tobacco in 2-3 days...

Saying that though I have a load of chilli peppers that I grew this summer drying in my kitchen... will have a search to see if I can find a recipe... Dont wanna hurt these little babies with anything to strong...

Feed at the moment is 1/2 strength and gives me a EC of around 0.9 - 1.0 from a base ec of 0.4 (tapwater)

 

[Groff]

Thanks man... I'm just sorry that I was right about the COGR nutes with regular Canna Coco Plus subs. I myself was confused for weeks, thinking it was the same thing. Anyways, it CANT be THAT far away that you can't grow.

What about a pH meter? EC will do no good to measure if you don't have the pH right where you want it, plus with this nute mix-up... I was shocked when I recently discovered my tap water is almost pH 8.

You could also buy bottled pH neutral water very cheaply until the plant i well established too.

 

[barcelonafc]

I got my PH dialed down to 5.8 after I have left the nutrients to settle for an hour or so... got a cheapo ph pen that needs to be calibrated every week or so but it does the trick... My tapwater is out of the tap at 7.0 so a few drops of nitric acid brings it down to the correct levels.. Run off gives me a ph of around 6

 

[barcelonafc]

Couple more shots from the outdoor superskunks... Night temps are starting to drop to around 7-8c, still got at least a couple of weeks to go yet i think..




Thats a 25 litre jerry can at the bottom of the photo to give you idea of size... 2.3 metres

 

[thefunk]

Wow, large ladies then! gotta love outdoor grows for the size these babies can grow to.

I'm inclined to agree with Groffuwiwi about the medium change if you got some of those slabs you could even chop them up to fit in the pot size you want to work with and could definately make the transplant alot less stressful by making a small reservoir in the COGR however you shape it so you could retain the rootball of the plant. a small amount of mix around the root ball isn't going to affect the overall nutrient uptake too much when it's got it's roots throughout the whole rest of the cogr. then you know your nutes are going to be spot on. A little jiggle around now to save you from constant jiggles and deficiency identification and fixing in the longrun.