Indoor TinyTent test grow: Dutch Passion Auto Forbidden Cherry

[Lil Dab]

If this actually works, all you doubters owe me a beer. If it doesn't I never believed it would anyway, it's stupid, no idea why you all forced me to do it.

It will work fine I believe the plant will only grow to the size of its area it’s going to be tight but as long as you keep rh in check you’ll be fine.

I grew my first 420 scrog in my dry tent which is only 20”x36”x60”

 

[KingRatt]

Hey guys, this is just a fun little side project of mine: I have two 30x30x60cm (1x1x2 ft.) tents that I normally use to start out new plants. Now I want to see if I can't pull off a full grow in them, using a custom built DWC setup, a custom built lamp, custom cooling, custom heating, custom SCROG setup etc.

And of course, I'll be using a version of 420autoflower's technique-mix - customized of course, what else
Why everything custom? Not because I think I "know better" or anything of the sort, just to suit my knowledge, equipment and space.

The lamp is round about 25-30W in power (have to check), the whole setup pulls 120W for both rooms combined under full load and full heating (which never happens).

The Cherries share a room with two other tents, 60x60x160 for two Dutch Passion Auto Lemon Kix, that I'll put in a separate grow journal, to keep it to one strain a journal.

My tiny little grow room fully loaded, so I can barely just still fit in myself for maintenance:

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Then, the popped and used-up beans, just for fun - I put two seeds into distilled water, both popped, 100% germination rate, as usual with Dutch Passion auto seeds. I shouldn't have used the Macro lens on my phone, it's crap, without it macro pics get much better (and higher res)... oh well.

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Day 6 (counting day 1 = day seed was removed from fridge and put into distilled water):
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Day 8:
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Starting them out at pH 5.9, EC 0.9, using all Hesi nutrients (SuperVit, Root Complex, Hydro Grow). So far they look happy and grow rather fast, but I'm still missing roots out the bottom. Maybe stuffed the bottom-hole too much (of the rockwool-cube... pervs!).

That's all for now folks Take care!

P.S.: To be clear, I'm not entirely insane - I know chances of this working are VERY slim, unless done exactly right, and of course, only if the seeds play along. I just have nothing better to do with those two tents right now, so fork it, why not

This will be fun to watch!

 

[BII]

You read my mind

No but really, I'm kind of looking forward to visiting the cops with a big ass bag of weed in hand, going "please destroy for me, kthxbai" and just watching their reactions

Only do this if you know that you'll not be charged. You will be coming in guilty of possessing beyond the limit, transporting it, etc., even confessing to growing it too, and seemingly trying to make some type of public/political statement or protest. What do you expect to happen? Best to dispose of it yourself.

 

[Sandor]

@bill yeah, the plan was initially to ring them up and ask them whether I should bring it over to them or if they want to get it, but just dunking it in paint will probably be the easiest way, even if it makes me feel horrible...

@Lil Dab I love growing me some autos in some tiny spaces, I just can't help it - efficiency is king in my mind. Beautiful little plants you got there!


But now, for the good and the bad news - the good news is, I finally found time again to post today, bad news is, one of the cherries died T_T RIP!

Guess that's what can happen when you try too many different weird things all at once - however, her sister pushed through and will survive.

Same nutrient regime, same lamp, same everything, as usual. So I take it the living sister is the tougher one

Honestly I'm not too mad about it, now I get to stay within the legal 3 plant limit, and I get to turn off at least one lamp, generating a bit less heat.

So what went wrong? 6 things I know of, maybe more - a quick postmortem:

A) I pushed the plants too hard to "save time" - instead of my usual 3-day-stop in a small container with clay pellets and a heated pad under it, I moved them directly to DWC

B) They never rooted - well, plant D did by now, but C never showed a root through the bottom

C) I may have messed up the rockwool cube with oily residue from the fresh scalpel knife I used to cut it to size - maybe weed dislikes knife oil...

D) The room the seeds/seelings/tiny plants were in was very hot from the two Lemon Kix growing under hundreds of watts - may just have been too warm as well

E) The self-built lamps are not above suspicion, I had luck with them at first but both plants reacted strongly when moved too close too soon

F) Nutrient burn - pushed them too hard on the feed, despite trying to stay within somewhat normal parameters

So, note to self: just push slightly less hard, make sure they have normal conditions (nothing too crazy), and they'll be fine.

The log doesn't quite end here, but it's only about a single plant from now on.

The last few days of our beloved plant C, starting with day 10:

Day 12:

Day 14:

Day 16:

Day 18:

Day 20:

Welp, that's that for plant C, requiescat in pace...

And here's the apparently somewhat stronger (or more determined to survive anyway) plant D:

Day 10:

Day 12:

Day 14:

Day 16:

Day 18:

Day 20:

Both are horribly late, but at least one survived. I learned my lessons, and next time I'll keep a closer eye on them too, instead of just focusing on my main grows.

I still have a few tricks up my sleeve to hopefully make this crazy idea work, but that'll come later, let's just see if dear D will make it first. That's all for now, folks!

 

[420autoflower]

@bill yeah, the plan was initially to ring them up and ask them whether I should bring it over to them or if they want to get it, but just dunking it in paint will probably be the easiest way, even if it makes me feel horrible...

@Lil Dab I love growing me some autos in some tiny spaces, I just can't help it - efficiency is king in my mind. Beautiful little plants you got there!


But now, for the good and the bad news - the good news is, I finally found time again to post today, bad news is, one of the cherries died T_T RIP!

Guess that's what can happen when you try too many different weird things all at once - however, her sister pushed through and will survive.

Same nutrient regime, same lamp, same everything, as usual. So I take it the living sister is the tougher one

Honestly I'm not too mad about it, now I get to stay within the legal 3 plant limit, and I get to turn off at least one lamp, generating a bit less heat.

So what went wrong? 6 things I know of, maybe more - a quick postmortem:

A) I pushed the plants too hard to "save time" - instead of my usual 3-day-stop in a small container with clay pellets and a heated pad under it, I moved them directly to DWC

B) They never rooted - well, plant D did by now, but C never showed a root through the bottom

C) I may have messed up the rockwool cube with oily residue from the fresh scalpel knife I used to cut it to size - maybe weed dislikes knife oil...

D) The room the seeds/seelings/tiny plants were in was very hot from the two Lemon Kix growing under hundreds of watts - may just have been too warm as well

E) The self-built lamps are not above suspicion, I had luck with them at first but both plants reacted strongly when moved too close too soon

F) Nutrient burn - pushed them too hard on the feed, despite trying to stay within somewhat normal parameters

So, note to self: just push slightly less hard, make sure they have normal conditions (nothing too crazy), and they'll be fine.

The log doesn't quite end here, but it's only about a single plant from now on.

The last few days of our beloved plant C, starting with day 10:

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Day 12:

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Day 14:

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Day 16:

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Day 18:

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Day 20:

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Welp, that's that for plant C, requiescat in pace...

And here's the apparently somewhat stronger (or more determined to survive anyway) plant D:

Day 10:

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Day 12:

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Day 14:

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Day 16:

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Day 18:

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Day 20:

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Both are horribly late, but at least one survived. I learned my lessons, and next time I'll keep a closer eye on them too, instead of just focusing on my main grows.

I still have a few tricks up my sleeve to hopefully make this crazy idea work, but that'll come later, let's just see if dear D will make it first. That's all for now, folks!

Sorry Brother!
Better luck next time.

 

[Sandor]

Thank you very much man! But don't count out the D plant just yet This is not over.

Actually, to keep up with my tradition on here, let me rename her - to Tenacious D. If not her, then who???

She's now officially by FAR the latest auto (or weed plant at all actually) I've ever had, 100% my fault, just to be clear - nothing to do with the plant or seeds or anything, just my feeding, dumb choices and some equipment issues. But she's still alive, and wouldn't you know it, she's growing - VERY, VERY slowly - but now accelerating.

At this point I'm 90%+ sure she'll make it to the finish line - call me an optimist (you'd be the first) but yeah, she's not one to give up and the hard part is pretty much over, fingers crossed.

This might actually kind of work in my favor - she's tiny-tiny. Exactly what I need for this grow to have any chance at succeeding at all.

Today, at age 52 from seed, she stands at 24cm (9.5") tall - that of course includes about 15cm (5") from the DWC bucket itself She's SCROGed and looking - considering all circumstances leading up to this point - alright enough to assume she can be made to work through it all, with enough tender loving care and whatnot.

So, we left off at day 20 apparently... I was quite busy the last few weeks, sorry!

Shortly after that, she kicked into a higher gear, which wasn't too hard considering where she was at...

Day 22, after a thorough cleaning of the DWC bucket and new water/fert mix - about 5cm (2") high (EC 1.1, still way too high):

Day 24, after adding my custom SCROG "net" - it's still very much a WIP but does the job so far. I like to experiment with stuff. Turned out to be really stupid, should have put it in later, had to remove it and put it back in a bit later. Meh. Easy enough to do.

Day 26, after removing the lowest pair of leaves and moving the whole plant down 1-2cm in its rockwool cube to save space:

Day 28, after the plant topped itself into having two main "colas"/stems/whatever; height about 9cm (3.5"):

Day 30:

Day 32, making me think she's about to kick the bucket any day now with those leaves doing all kinds of funky contortionist stuff; watered again @ EC 0.95 this time, slowly but surely getting down to the right level:

Day 34:

Day 36:

Day 38, after topping her which was necessary to stay within the confines of this 30x30x60 (1'x1'x2') room, and trying to take a clone which failed at impressive speed (my first time - took about 2 hours to die, I like it, very efficient):

Day 40, she's looking kind of alive again:

 

[Sandor]

Day 42, after a second topping to keep her as small as possible:

Day 44:

Day 46, after having fed her at EC 1.1 again - which she was now able to take, if maybe not happily - I'm still trying to find out what she likes since I have very little other plants like her to compare to:

Day 48, two days after removing the "large" fan leaves and supercropping/SCROGing:

Day 50, she survived the bending and didn't stop growing:

Day 52, today - still growing:

So obviously there is still a lot to be done, and you can see she wants a fresh water/fert dose, we'll see if I'll go EC up or down when I next water her, probably tomorrow.

Feel free to place bets on whether or not I can make her survive until harvest I say she'll do it. And she is just 24cm tall, including the bucket, of about 58cm max height I can use - so 34cm more vertical growth are possible, let's call it 30 to leave at least some space from the lamp.

Considering my (rather large imho) Lemon Kix is just about 50cm above her SCROG net, I'd say that should be possible... and I'm not too worried about the discolored leaves, that should just be a matter of fixing the nutes.

Stay tuned for more nonsense!



EDIT 1 day later:

Haha, found the (most recent) culprit

It was the god damn china USB air pumps I was testing out. At first they seemed to give enough air... but after about two months, all 4 of them only produced mouse-fart volumes of it anymore.

Switched to an Eheim 200, now it looks like some crazy splashy rapids in there, and wouldn't you know it, 12 hours later the plant is 50% less yellow and stands up more straight. Pics later.

The roots look like ass too, but that should fix itself mostly.

That's the issue when you test too many new things at once, even if you get 5 under control, the 6th can still fork you.