New Grower Waira's 11-strain-in-the-membrane outdoor grow

[Waira]

{DP Tony]---- here's her pic (purple?! Star Ryder )

 

[Waira]

I like you, did so much research in preparation for our outdoor growing adventures. But for me I always seem have to go through the school of hard knocks

No doubt about Stick',...we can read 'til we bleed, but application of the knowledge is where the real skill is,... perhaps during the first couple grows, folks are learning as much, if not more, of what NOT to do! Fortunately, all these little bread-crumbs of info/tips/knowledge help keep us on the path to success, however we may stagger, and out of the woodlands of FUBAR

Tuesday, I transplanted 7 of them into 3 gal pots, and still have 13, in party cups. (Waiting to show their parts)

Pardon my alarm here, mate, but how big are those party cups? Are we talking 16oz size? To keep the autos in there until signs of sexing will be a root cramp stunting nightmare,...! Please tell me I'm missing some step here...:joint: LOL! **** As for temps, sure 60F at night would be peachy, in a perfect maximizing world, but for us non-subtropical growers, it ain't happenin'! I say 50F only because that's usually the coolest nights get here at this time of year, and I'm too lazy to hump them in and out when they're in pots this big! Plus, there's simply no place to put them where they'll get decent morning sun inside in these pots.... Such is our compromise,... I am seeing some purple coloration showing up in unexpected places, Star ryder aside; we'll see if it's sun intensity, or the cool nights, as they grow out.
Yeah, me and Sapphire get Indian summers here; our warmest temps are always late summer - early fall; for me, localized fog is the normal near the coast, rolling in and out like a giant shade cloth.... and thanks for the verbal smack-on-the-butt! I'm not peeved and kicking at the dirt and myself over my results, but I'm not beaming sunshine up my stank portal either.... some of that 'disappointment' is in the 'larger' strains themselves; whatever my errors were, they weren't seemingly so bad as to cause nearly all to be this stunted; look at the B. Lee's! Outdoor life suits some far better that others, clearly,... this is one reason why I'm going to try HighRise gear next time,... LOL! I'm positively disgusted with you getting such choice seeds from the Big Chiefs that you did! :booya: Then again, the scope of your undertaking here is something else! Now it's my turn to beggar some favor from somebody (re: PM)! I really would like Dragons, but I have no time/space for reg's, and ditto for breeding, however excellent the stock! Your offer would be gladly accepted, good sir, if I'm in a position to work'm! BTW, how're the kidneys holding up? Gotta make sure you're producing carnivore-scented pee,... :roflcry: The dogs are dogs, so they can help too! Green gods, Stickman, you don't have a plateful going on, you've a 3 course belly-buster! Please just be careful, mate! The last thing you need is to 'throw a rod' right now..

 

[Waira]

*week 6+* Time for some c/u porn :brow: What the pics don't show well is the beginning of nice trichome formation....and of course, the developing aromas! Vertical growth (stretch) has largely stopped, except for the B. Lee's (slowing); bud sites seem to be building nicely so far,... no telling yet how fat they'll get, too soon.... as you can see, most are fireplugs!
[high res' pics take sooo long to upload,... very porky; maybe worth it later when there's more to see..] The labels may not be clear, so starting from top left, by 2's unless noted:
RRF's; Red Dwarfs (2nd has odd, skinny build, lighter color); (1) Herc', starting to form mini-tree shape; (1) PK- (what a beauty, love to see a larger plant of this,..color is almost black and metallic!); UV's (there ya go Chief*); Cobra's, long and stubs; B. Lee's, towering over the rest, and still farthest back in development; MI5 #1 (runt is elsewhere); Star Ryder's, purple color increasing on the late germ' stubby!
All except the BL's are getting bloom-favored fert's, either Tiger Bloom (2-8-4) or the Grow Power (4-8-2), blended with Big Bloom; sometimes molasses @ 1T/gal (or just by itself); BL's still getting largely the Botanicare Pro Grow 3-2-4 (organic).. fed every 3rd watering at 1/3 strength (watching how they react to the new soil blend post transplant)... anyone looking pale-ish gets a foliar shot of Iron supp'..... I'll increase fert' conc. oh-so-carefully, by best guess!
****thanks y'all!****


*Chief- these guys just never took off in height,...

 

[sapphire420]

:dance2: They look more and more luscious every day! You can probably guess my favorite is the shorty cobra... She's got those gorgeous curves and she's nice and plump... How shallow of me to judge her solely on her appearance, eh? :roflcry:

Glad you mentioned your disappointment is with some of the strains, because I didn't understand why you are so seemingly hard on yourself - some of them haven't met your expectations - I get it now! I'm not familiar with many auto strains so I'm not disappointed in your results at all!

That's all I have for ya right now, it's late and I'm crosseyed - catch ya later, hon!
:smokebuds:

 

[StickMan]

Pardon my alarm here, mate, but how big are those party cups? Are we talking 16oz size? To keep the autos in there until signs of sexing will be a root cramp stunting nightmare,...! Please tell me I'm missing some step here..

Waira, they are HighRise , what cres calls 'light sensitive photos' (very early) They are in 18 oz. cups, which I read would be fine to start this gear in. Another lesson learned. Note to self, always start them in at least 32 oz. cups. Tomorrow I will just plant 2 plants per permanent containers with what I 'think' look like ladies and cull one as soon as possible. Permanent containers are 3 @35 gallon and 3@ 20. I will put one strain of each in both sizes. Air temps are still cooler than I would like at night, but with that large of containers I would think the soil will retain enough heat for the roots. Like today, it was only 6o outdoors, but 80 in hoop house all closed up.

I'm humping plants in and out, not sure right now how many autos are in 3-5 gallon pots (too many) Will wait to start all gear three weeks later next year. Did transplant one Duurty Dragon into a 7 gallon smart pot in my tent today to grow out indoors. Will be adding two more, probably a Karma and Ghaze x 99.

Well, that is all I can type at the moment, as I can't hardly think. Hope post makes some kind of sense. Pain level is 8 in lower back. Own fault, been pretty much working from 7:30 am until 11:30 pm today.

Catch up with ya soon.:thumbs:

Edit. Sorry waira, didn't mean to highjack your thread, just talkin about little old me.
Will comment on YOUR grow tomorrow, as I will be taking it fairly easy, well compared to the last few days anyway.

 

[Waira]

They look more and more luscious every day! You can probably guess my favorite is the shorty cobra... She's got those gorgeous curves and she's nice and plump... How shallow of me to judge her solely on her appearance, eh? :roflcry:

Glad you mentioned your disappointment is with some of the strains, because I didn't understand why you are so seemingly hard on yourself - some of them haven't met your expectations - I get it now! I'm not familiar with many auto strains so I'm not disappointed in your results at all!

Hi Sapphire Thanks!- Yeah, some of them, like the MI5 and your 'other girlfriend' Cobra are going to end up looking like somebody broke the top off a larger plant and stuck it the pot! ..... :brow: Say, Sapphire, I'm noticing a trend here,... you like your ladies short and curvy, just like I do!! :roflcry: :lick: :brow: ********** The strains I chose for this shotgun-blast grow were all over the map for Ind.:Satv. ratio, general build shape, and S-M size range; what I ended up with overall is much more homogenous than I certainly would've bet on! I'll take my licks for mistakes made, but some, especially the MI5's and UV's, are candidates for the WTF awards,... waaaay off spec, not bushy, not tall,... and I'm not so sure this is all on me, but I could be wrong,... ... May not ever know, because I'm unlikely to try them again for the foreseeable future (just too many other in line ahead), unless the results are superb.... That Purple Kush, Miss Color Queenie , is worth having around just to look at! Pics do NO justice,...you gotta try her! (Buddha seeds; great rep') ******** You're due for an update too! I'll swing by your new photo thread later! Oh yes! Stickman has several killer strains from HighRise, including these fast-photo's custom breed by our in-house Mod., Cres..... I gather they're kinda like auto's (short veg. times?), but still need some sort of light cycle change to trigger flowering... very trick!..
I can't wait to see how they turn out for him :smoke: ........

 

[Waira]

Edit. Sorry waira, didn't mean to highjack your thread, just talkin about little old me.
Will comment on YOUR grow tomorrow, as I will be taking it fairly easy, well compared to the last few days anyway.

Dewd! So fogedaboutit! Until you start your our thread, here's the place,...:buds: This is funny- I was wondering what you n' Sapphire were up to, and you both fired messages off here within 5min. of each other besides, I ain't got but a fraction of your action,... Jackson!! Ahhh yeeeeah..... LMAO! *yawn* ... my turn to crash and burn, Vern.... I hope your back is feeling better! (wha'd I say?!) LOL!).....I'll catcha tomorrow,...

 

[Waira]

Stick-mensch! How's the back, man? I forgot that you're really angling for some :beast: putting them into hot tub pots! I eagerly anticipate the results,...:drool: No doubt, those big pots make good heat sinks, especially in the hoop'..... BTW, isn't Duurty Dragon a short strain, point being, 7 gal. is overkill? or do they like lottsa space, as some do regardless of size... Geez, Ive totally lost track of what all you've got going, just pieces... fire off your strain list for me again when you can, okay? Things are warming up at the Stick-Co farms, ay?! Speaking of hotness, swing by Sapphires' thread! That girls has got it goin' on! :booya:

 

[StickMan]

Hey Waira, I would be very happy if my Autos look like yours at 6+ weeks for our first go at them.:thumbs: Just look at how much we are learning concerning not what to do in the future. Every day I�m learning what not to do, and I know it will show up more and more with my Autos in the coming weeks. I also believe that so many strains that seed banks/ breeders sell are over hyped. I�m sure as you are; glad to have found reputable breeders and seed banks, right here at AFN.


I can soooooooo understand you not wanting to mess around with reg seeds. It certainly does take a lot of extra time and space. But I also want to mess around in the near future with doing some breeding for myself. It�s not just a job, but an adventure.

Please just be careful, mate! The last thing you need is to 'throw a rod' right now..I hope your back is feeling better! (wha'd I say?!) LOL!)

Unfortunately it�s too late for throwing a rod or two out. I worked as a carpenter/concrete finisher for 27 years, and destroyed my spine. Lumbar region has so much damage that surgery is out of the question. Four months ago I had a three level discectomy/fusion in my neck, and 1 year ago Total Knee Replacement. One of my hip joints is gone also, but won�t let them replace that. The show must go on. I have always been very production oriented , as if you couldn't tell.. As far as the back I�m always constant pain, but I found that MMJ works the best to help mitigate some of the pain.

BTW, isn't Duurty Dragon a short strain, point being, 7 gal. is overkill? or do they like lottsa space, as some do regardless of size...

The 411 I got from both cres from HighRise and Tester X who both grow with TLO, as well as my limited understanding of growing in it is; that the bigger the root mass you can create, the bigger your plants will grow.

Geez, Ive totally lost track of what all you've got going, just pieces... fire off your strain list for me again when you can, okay?

Durrty, Russian, and Karma Dragons, as well as three different Dragon xes.
HighRise gear is: Patriot Medicine ,Fast Bionic Guerilla, Auto Diesel Mix, Ghaze X C99 , and Pakistani Kush x Mighty Durban. I will wait until June 1st to start the HighRise Autos.

Yea, when I do start a thread, I think I will call it First Grow- Photos & Autos, OH NO!
Man, talk about a learning curve, Photos and Autos appear, to me so far at least to be two separate animals to grow in many respects. This is almost turning into work. But we do love to grow and learn.

Tonight I just started researching on Low Stress Training. It looks like I have a couple of Autos, that could certainly benefit from LSTing, but it looks like something I will probably do on most of my plants. Do you know much about it?

I'm off to go check out Sapphires' thread before I crash.

Catch ya later my friend.

 

[sapphire420]

HAHAHAHA - yep, I guess that small Cobra is my other girlfriend, but I'm starting to think she & Hazel are "twins!" At least super-babe-spirit-twins! :booya:

Homogenous - that's a great word to describe how some of your ladies look, yes... You are right - there should be WAY more diversity between the strains, at least... Now I'm picking up what you're putting down about the results - if the Mi5 and UV were supposed to be large growers it is VERY strange they should develop and look like the others. WEIRD!!

Speaking of WTF awards (HILARIOUS!!) here's a shot from my garden last year... Both are clones, planted the same day - Indo Haze on the left doing great - Blue Dream on the right giving me the finger!! Don't worry tho, the blue dream eventually kicked into gear and we lost about HALF her harvest from budworms for her trouble...



Ooohhhh, and about your Dad and your living situation - ya that's tough!! I totally understand why you are hesitant to go full-out for the second round, but since they will be autos maybe you can still put out a few that would be easily transported if necessary. 90 is great though, you have good genes! :smoke:

Next year I'm going to check out some of the different types of autos, such as you mentioned Stickman is growing... (HI STICK! ) I'm also interested in the super-autos... Wait, are they the same thing? LOL This year I just picked genetics I had heard of (there are so MANY!!), but during the off-season I'll do more research.

Hope you have a great day! The weather has changed back to our normal mid-60's... booooo! I enjoyed that nice warm day yesterday! Catchya later! :buds: