Harvest & Curing Water cure / decarboxylation - a stoner's theory

[Futt Dupp]

It seems to me that boiling weed for an hour or two might just kill two birds with one stone. "Stirring"

Water boils at just the right temperature for decarboxylation (GW Pharma's process patent for cannabinoid extraction says the optimum temperature is 105C, so a few degrees higher might be even better - that's probably not significant, but you could always add salt to raise the boiling point).

The ambient temperature will be very consistent. The hot and roiling water should distribute heat evenly throughout the plant matter, and it should also break down the water-soluble impurities faster than just soaking the weed in room temperature water. The roiling action will dislodge some gland heads, but I don't think it would be a significant loss if kept at a slow boil.

The end product would be cured, purified, and activated - and I bet it would make super clean hash.

I'm about to harvest a plant, and I'll make sure to boil up some of the buds. I never thought that sentence would pass my lips. Any thoughts?

 

[Chester]

Please let us know if it works ... :Sharing One:

 

[pop22]

It seems to me that boiling weed for an hour or two might just kill two birds with one stone. "Stirring"

Water boils at just the right temperature for decarboxylation (GW Pharma's process patent for cannabinoid extraction says the optimum temperature is 105C, so a few degrees higher might be even better - that's probably not significant, but you could always add salt to raise the boiling point).

The ambient temperature will be very consistent. The hot and roiling water should distribute heat evenly throughout the plant matter, and it should also break down the water-soluble impurities faster than just soaking the weed in room temperature water. The roiling action will dislodge some gland heads, but I don't think it would be a significant loss if kept at a slow boil.

The end product would be cured, purified, and activated - and I bet it would make super clean hash.

I'm about to harvest a plant, and I'll make sure to boil up some of the buds. I never thought that sentence would pass my lips. Any thoughts?

I like mine boiled in oil......:smoke:

 

[Futt Dupp]

I'm looking into the chemistry of the decarb reaction to see if it will proceed well in water. But even if it doesn't decarb well, it interests me as a possible curing method.

 

[Futt Dupp]

Nipped a nice side bud (probably would have cured to about 2 grams) from my day 60 Critical Sensi Star, and it's boiling as we speak. I'm going to smoke it, so the decarb part isn't as important right now. I just wanted a sampler, and I'm trying this as an extra step in quick drying it - (1) boil to get rid of some of the undesirable elements, (2) gently dry with a paper towel, (3) blow dry with cool air, (4) bake weed at 225, (5) bake me.

 

[late]

I don't like decarbing. YMMV..

I am also going to guess a significant amout
of the trikes will dissolve into the water.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

thats what I was thinking,yer gonna loose a LOT of meds imho cuz of the high heat and aggitation.but having never dun it,i dunno.Id just stick it in front of a fan after ya trim it up or just decarb it if ya'd rather,but Id stick it in front of a fan n then just smoke it.water cure it just soaking in water for like 12-24 hours aint it?just to get rid of a few things..?..taste of green n surface and sub surface nasties?..isnt that what water curing is,or do you actually heat up the water?..:Sharing One:

 

[Futt Dupp]

I usually quick-dry small buds on any hot surface (top of grow light, in front of a heat vent in a ceramic bowl, stereo receiver cranked up, etc),
or on a pizza stone in the oven. I've just been reading about both water curing and decarboxylating lately, and I read GW Pharma's patent application for cannabinoid extraction. I love to check things out for myself, so I'm experimenting. You'd be surprised how often the conventional wisdom turns out to be at least partly wrong.

Cannabinoids and terpenes barely dissolve in water at all, even if it's heated. So the trichs won't dissolve into the water, and they won't dissolve at the base and fall off easier. The heat won't be a problem, because water boils at just the right temperature to maximize the conversion of THCA to THC, and doesn't get hot enough to catalyze the conversion of the THC to CBD. Some trichs will definitely break off, but they don't come off as easy as you'd think. Think about how little it decreases potency when you grind your weed, which knocks off a lot of trichs.

Conventional water curing is done over a week or so at room temperature, with daily water changes. What I did was boil the whole bud for 30 minutes. It didn't smell while it was boiling. The water got surprisingly dark, more of a yellow-brown nicotine-ish color than I expected, with not much smell. I took the bud out and boiled the water off gently. When the water was almost all boiled off, you could tell it was very slightly greasy. When it had all boiled off, there was nothing visible left in the pan.

Even after I carefully pressed it between paper towels, the bud was really wet. I broke it up and dabbed it some more with paper towel, and then hung it in a fine mesh bag and blow-dried it the best I could with cool air (so it wouldn't have to be in the oven very long). It took a while to blow-dry, and was a bit of a pain in the ass. Then I put it in the oven at 250 on a pizza stone for about 10 minutes, and it was almost dry enough to smoke. I didn't want to overheat it, so I took it out and put it in front of the room fan to finish drying.

The bud is very dark with little or no bag appeal or odor. It looks very unimpressive, and definitely weighs less than it would have if it was air dried and cured.

I'll smoke it after dinner.

 

[late]

When it had all boiled off, there was nothing visible left in the pan.

Even after I carefully pressed it between paper towels, the bud was really wet.

Was the bottom sticky?

If this works the way you want, try DampRid. I had a problem once,
and was really surprised at how fast it dried out the plant, even in Maine's
rainy season.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

That's pretty interesting.Im gonna have to read a little about it n see if I can try curing a batch like that for my butter.Thanks man."AFN smoke out"