New Grower 1st Stealth Grow PC Style DWC

[OOOGaUtO]

No problem man, I fall behind sometimes but catch up most the time:joint:

Slapped Vick silly on your behalf... some good info being passed on!:group:

Well than ima slap u back . No worries Vape we all do it, jus don't forget about ur boi. Agreed some Ppl have put in some really good info on here I love AFN :group:

 

[VapedAs]

Nice little screen you made up there, wonder how long those tacks will hold down those plants! Loving the root pics.

Don't go thinking your getting away without a slap You put in the effort today. I always love when shit gets done. Rarely is it done by me hehe until next week when new grow will have to be set up:smokebuds:

 

[komach]

Hey OOOGaUtO , I hope you doesn't mind my . Excuse me if I misunderstood your posts....

When I was reading your updates I noticed you always say I added - example : '5ml voodo' - to the res. If I understand it right you just add it to the res (to existing reservoir with other nutrients). As for me it is not a good idea and with couple plants in the same reservoir it make it even worther.
The idea of dwc is to change it completely to avoid minerals lock out or minerals to much or to lil. You have 3 different plants that eat on different ratios of nutrients and by just adding some amount of nuts to existing res you can broke the whole idea of dwc not to say about ph fluctuations. Sure in late stages you just need to top it up with plain water or with 50/100 strength (still need to monitor exact ppm/ec)
The spots on the leafs in begin looks like cal/mag or to much of ph fluctuations 6.5 to 5.7 in one step is much, try to adjust gradually...
The scrog is good solution for low space but not with dwc as you need to change the res weekly (if you will fix the scrog screen on the dwc lid it should be ok) but when you fix the scrog screen to the grow cab it will block you from changing the reservoir... Late lst works as well

I hope you doesn't mind my comments and hope they are not useless for you
:group:

 

[OOOGaUtO]

Nice little screen you made up there, wonder how long those tacks will hold down those plants! Loving the root pics.

Don't go thinking your getting away without a slap You put in the effort today. I always love when shit gets done. Rarely is it done by me hehe until next week when new grow will have to be set up:smokebuds:

Thanks a lot Vaped :grat: appreciate the luv & rep bro:buds: I was doing some stress test on them and thier in there pretty good but I am going to get some small nails soon.

Hey OOOGaUtO , I hope you doesn't mind my . Excuse me if I misunderstood your posts....

When I was reading your updates I noticed you always say I added - example : '5ml voodo' - to the res. If I understand it right you just add it to the res (to existing reservoir with other nutrients). As for me it is not a good idea and with couple plants in the same reservoir it make it even worther.
The idea of dwc is to change it completely to avoid minerals lock out or minerals to much or to lil. You have 3 different plants that eat on different ratios of nutrients and by just adding some amount of nuts to existing res you can broke the whole idea of dwc not to say about ph fluctuations. Sure in late stages you just need to top it up with plain water or with 50/100 strength (still need to monitor exact ppm/ec)
The spots on the leafs in begin looks like cal/mag or to much of ph fluctuations 6.5 to 5.7 in one step is much, try to adjust gradually...
The scrog is good solution for low space but not with dwc as you need to change the res weekly (if you will fix the scrog screen on the dwc lid it should be ok) but when you fix the scrog screen to the grow cab it will block you from changing the reservoir... Late lst works as well

I hope you doesn't mind my comments and hope they are not useless for you
:group:

Yo Komach.....really....it's like that.....lmao jp Naw man really I highly appreciate you taking your time out to check my whole thread man & luv the response :grat: i really luv AFN for this exact reason ima have to slap u silly for that

I need to word that diff when I say added the voodoo to the res. I def never add str8 nutes direct into the res with the babies still in there, when I was sayin that I meant I totally changed the res out here's my steps on that bc I don't think I'm doin right, I feel there's def a better way. 1) unplug air stones/ tuning 2) place lid with babies in the exact same Tupperware as the res place them in there gently totally empty no water at all, roots exposed to air in the empty Tupperware. ( that's the step I think I'm doing wrong) 3) rinse the res with tap water wipe down with paper towel. 4) add RO water than nutes.
When I do add water to the res when that lowers I add a mix of all nutes with water mixed never just nutes str8 into the res.

Do you mean late stages as in flowering? At that point I add the diluted nute mix down to 50/100 than plain ph water? That brings me to another question, when I was jus adding my plain RO water that's only 4ppm it made them go into cal/mag def so when I have to fees them jus plain ph water and during flush can I still add cal/mag to that.....or better yet should I just switch to tap water??

And ill def set the ph down gradually noob mistake

All the points you make are what made me do this so late (scrog). My main concern was as you stated how am I going to change the res with them stuck in scrog. Well Vick brought up a good idea a few pages back to get a submersible pump but I was concerned about roots gettin damaged by the suction, so I looked for alternatives and found a hand siphon pump that I thought I could try out. I can adjust suction pressure bc I'm manually doing it and I added coffee filter to the end of the hose that will go in the res so no roots get sucked in? Ill post pics of it later. Do you think that would work, would siphoning the res water out and replacing it with new water nute mix will be good enough or should it be taken out rinsed and washed for every res change?

Again appreciate your comments and they were extremely useful! :hug::clap: hope you don't mind the long response and questions lol :smokebuds:

 

[komach]

I need to word that diff when I say added the voodoo to the res.I def never add str8 nutes direct into the res with the babies still in there, when I was sayin that I meant I totally changed the res out here's

My bad .I was almost sure you know that, but had to say it.

my steps on that bc I don't think I'm doin right, I feel there's def a better way

Roots like air for the res change time.(if they don't dry out for 1h )

RO water that's only 4ppm it made them go into cal/mag def

It depend on how much of ro water you was using (check your ec/ppm) and you will see when just topping up is not enough and you need to change res completely. 3 hungry plants + plain water will lower your ec/ppm quickly what will lead to res change more frequent than 1 week.

I have to fees them jus plain ph water and during flush can I still add cal/mag to that.....or better yet should I just switch to tap water??

When you will cleans/flush you don't need to add nothing to the res water as the plant will just drink and use the reserves they stored trough the grow cycle. And you can use tap water as well, but if you want to clean them faster and cleaner ro water is better for sure.

All the points you make are what made me do this so late (scrog). My main concern was as you stated how am I going to change the res with them stuck in scrog. Well Vick brought up a good idea a few pages back to get a submersible pump but I was concerned about roots gettin damaged by the suction, so I looked for alternatives and found a hand siphon pump that I thought I could try out. I can adjust suction pressure bc I'm manually doing it and I added coffee filter to the end of the hose that will go in the res so no roots get sucked in? Ill post pics of it later. Do you think that would work, would siphoning the res water out and replacing it with new water nute mix will be good enough or should it be taken out rinsed and washed for every res change?

It will work but believe me, it is pain in the ars to sack the water every time manually...... (I need to do it always when I get a huge monster in my cab that I'm unable to move out of bucket). And you will have huge ammount of roots when they will grow up, it will not be easy for you.(and dwc is not the easiest way by it self,why make it even more difficult) You are low on space there and you definitely will get res temp issues, that in combination with rest of slime in the res can lead to some issues (you know)

 

[OOOGaUtO]

Quick update
Day 19
Day 13

Everything was normal temp, ppm & ph same from yesterday's res change. DD grew threw the screen has multiple tops at same length a lil higher than main cola now, seems to be working, what y'all think? Any adjustments I should make? Comments, concerns questions & tips please.

Update pics
View attachment 203341
View attachment 203342View attachment 203343View attachment 203344

 

[zaza]

000GauTo Bruh they are looking great...incredible what a few days do Hey....exactly what does a scrog do? Support the branches? It looks great (IMO) though.....fyi I am using all CFLs, Lowryder2 auto is looking fatter and fatter by the day, I will for sure get some pics either today or tomorrow. Sweet skunk auto flower has officially made her way into the world and is now happy in Happy Frog Soil. Question: Have you heard anything on this starin that it is not such a good producer as of yield is concerned? Herbies states : What do ya think? Whats this Me Einstein Crap
Indoor Yield: 400-500 g / m2
Outdoor Yield: 35-150 g / plant
Harvest Interior / Exterior: 7 weeks from germination.
Height: 60 - 90cm

Have a great day to all reading!

 

[OOOGaUtO]

My bad .I was almost sure you know that, but had to say it.

Roots like air for the res change time.(if they don't dry out for 1h )

It depend on how much of ro water you was using (check your ec/ppm) and you will see when just topping up is not enough and you need to change res completely. 3 hungry plants + plain water will lower your ec/ppm quickly what will lead to res change more frequent than 1 week.

When you will cleans/flush you don't need to add nothing to the res water as the plant will just drink and use the reserves they stored trough the grow cycle. And you can use tap water as well, but if you want to clean them faster and cleaner ro water is better for sure.


It will work but believe me, it is pain in the ars to sack the water every time manually...... (I need to do it always when I get a huge monster in my cab that I'm unable to move out of bucket). And you will have huge ammount of roots when they will grow up, it will not be easy for you.(and dwc is not the easiest way by it self,why make it even more difficult) You are low on space there and you definitely will get res temp issues, that in combination with rest of slime in the res can lead to some issues (you know)

Komach thanks again for taking your time to assist and answer my questions :grat: im a total noob when it comes to DWC & RO water thanks alot man. I have been doing alot of thinking the past couple of days on what to do with the scrog and res changing, cleaning & along with your concerns you brought up and i have really been battling with this. My res temps are now always around 69-70 range seen it hit 71.6 in the past couple of days so im experiencing higher res temps already bc of my limited space and small res. my res is 9 L i think so thats gonna fill up soon with roots but it shouldnt be hard to siphon out with a pump but will def be difficult with the roots fillin up. But as soon as its gets to hectic in there that screen in gettin cut & removed. Thanks for dropping by and stay tuned :smokebuds:

000GauTo Bruh they are looking great...incredible what a few days do Hey....exactly what does a scrog do? Support the branches? It looks great (IMO) though.....fyi I am using all CFLs, Lowryder2 auto is looking fatter and fatter by the day, I will for sure get some pics either today or tomorrow. Sweet skunk auto flower has officially made her way into the world and is now happy in Happy Frog Soil. Question: Have you heard anything on this starin that it is not such a good producer as of yield is concerned? Herbies states : What do ya think? Whats this Me Einstein Crap
Indoor Yield: 400-500 g / m2
Outdoor Yield: 35-150 g / plant
Harvest Interior / Exterior: 7 weeks from germination.
Height: 60 - 90cm

Have a great day to all reading!

Whats good ZAZA thanks again homie! I know right wait to you see how much the DD has grown, every day is a great surprise. The scrog is supposed to increase yields by establishing a nice even canopy and providing equal light to all flower sites, it takes away that christmas tree type of structure to a nice even bush. Im still learning and am totally new to scrog as well so im sure it will take a couple of go arounds to get it right and gather more info, but check out some of posts from Komach and Vick they blessed me some info and pics. :thumbs: Congrats on your sweet skunk! I just googled it and it seems pretty f@#$#$ good, i found a grow journal when i googled right quick some from AFn but didnt get to much but they didnt really try to get much heres the link https://www.autoflower.org/f12/sweet-seeds-sweet-skunk-auto-11384.html Glad to hear your baby getting fatter and fatter, i luv a phatty Lets see how she is and you should do a journal on your shit bruh. I dont think there is any on here like yours.


Quick update/scrog status
The scrog is helping alot, i didnt do it correctly with the DD but she has 5 main tops now that are all right along & above with the main cola, I had to move one of her branches two squares over, she is growing fast and seems to love the srog, she is about 4 inches over the scrog now and ive had to move the lights the past two days, she grows to the light over night! CB isnt doing that great as DD in scrog but i think im actually doing this one right, one of her branches is above the net, the others are struggling to reach the light i make adjustments as much as passible to make sure every site has light touching it, but they move and fill it up fast. AA is still way behind due to her main tap root bracking off, id say she is about 4 inches with a mean gansta lean trying to reach light and she is 16 days old. :box:I added some Voodoo juice into the my nute mix i added to res last night to fill it back up and they literally exploded fastest growth overnight ive seen so far, that voodoo juie works!! thought the voodoo juice would help AA root system, hopefully

Pics & another update coming in a lil:group:

Watching the NCAA championship!!! Its already a good game I think Michigan might get win it. OOOO shhhh trey burke is ballin. gotta go :group:

 

[vick]

Sooooo much reading lol. Glad to see you've learned a lot and that komach is helping you too. The scrog is lookin great dude. Keep it up. :bone:

Can't wait to see them budding!

 

[herbal.experience]

loving the new set up with the scrog ooog! (like that rhyme?)

as much as i like the scrog = my concern was the same as KO about the watering and how you would go about it.
but you two already got it figured out with your essays so all is well.

excited to see how your space turns out once shes in full action -- which from the sound of it has already begun.

here are some good read about more scrogging and more if youre interested in reading em
1) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377
2) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377

i have more links but they should be fine lol.

keep em growing bro! :dance: