Mephisto Genetics do you ever defoliate dominant cola fans?

[Mizzo81]

I don’t give advice unless I’ve done it myself with positive results and am confident with results. Look back at my advice I guarantee it all will help not harm your plants. With doing leaf manipulation on and off when needed over the past 6 years with tons of plants and around 30 different strains from multiple different breeders with positive results. Worse u get is a droopy sad plant if u take too many but they usually perk back up within a 1/2 to an hr and sometimes that sets them off on a crazy growth spurt. And yes as many opinions makes for the best info usually adds up to a lot of experience coming together

 

[lunarman]

I don’t give advice unless I’ve done it myself with positive results and am confident with results. Look back at my advice I guarantee it all will help not harm your plants. With doing leaf manipulation on and off when needed over the past 6 years with tons of plants and around 30 different strains from multiple different breeders with positive results. Worse u get is a droopy sad plant if u take too many but they usually perk back up within a 1/2 to an hr and sometimes that sets them off on a crazy growth spurt. And yes as many opinions makes for the best info usually adds up to a lot of experience coming together

Mizzo what do you think about eliminating all the lower Bud sites like I've seen some people do and that way you don't have to worry about blocking light on them?

 

[slowandeasy]

Mizzo what do you think about eliminating all the lower Bud sites like I've seen some people do and that way you don't have to worry about blocking light on them?

defoliate in moderation, starting at the bottom of the plant . A leaf that gets NO light is going to die eventually anyways. A bottom branch that is totally blocked of light will produce jack crap and is better off trimmed.

 

[Mizzo81]

Mizzo what do you think about eliminating all the lower Bud sites like I've seen some people do and that way you don't have to worry about blocking light on them?

I don’t like to eliminate all the lowers but when u get branches that r over 30” long and loaded with bud sites I usually pull the lowest two or three unless the plant is real sparse with leafs and light penetrates well then maybe just the lowest two. I just about always pull the set of branches off as they never really get anywhere. Plants like gold glue and SN the lowers r close enough to the tops that with leaf manipulation they can get good sized and density still covered in trics and resin.

 

[Mizzo81]

defoliate in moderation, starting at the bottom of the plant . A leaf that gets NO light is going to die eventually anyways. A bottom branch that is totally blocked of light will produce jack crap and is better off trimmed.

Yup trim them let the energy go to the big buds. Only take off what’s needed lead wise.

 

[Mizzo81]

I see some folks only leave the top two or three bud sites and they get huge but I like some lower stuff to press While I wait for The tops to dry a little

 

[lunarman]

I cut off a few top main fans to expose the dom cola bud sites below and surrounding sites too so things look different. They look sparse now. Will see how things develop from here. Still in veg not flower. Did not cut any lower fans like Slow said. I don't think I need to do much more defol as the plants are very open now. As long as they don't veg too much more.

 

[Statgator]

I think this subject is something that should be a no doubter proven by data from testing. That's what I'd like to see. That way there is no debating it or making it a gut instinct decision. Either cutting top fans is good, or its not. Not sure how one would test it. Maybe with clones in a controlled test where one room has top fans cut to expose bud sites, and the other room is natural with leaf tucking. And then you weigh the harvest and test the THC. Or maybe there are to many complex factors involved and you cant test it. I probably should have cut fans off one OD and not the other just to see if there is a difference at the end.

The issue is some things can't be tested. The results would have to be gained over so many different genetics before one could draw a global conclusion. So no this one can't be tested.

 

[Lysergik_kid]

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but what about pulling the lowest PHAT set of fan leaves once flowering begins? Can it be beneficial?

 

[Statgator]

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but what about pulling the lowest PHAT set of fan leaves once flowering begins? Can it be beneficial?

I do this not to benefit the plant but as part of my pest management system. Keeping fans and or any plant material out of the soil just keeps the locations where pests can harbor to a minimum. Those fans are simply storage mechanisms anyhow so their removal is trivial.