Manganese!
Indoor First Grow Log 3-4 strains
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Greetings once again Vaped 
Firstly let me start off by saying I am no expert on Coco, but I have been using NF Coco and NF Coco A & B for a while now and have had some success.....
I also do not want to step on anyone's toes, I am only going from personal experience using the above products!
Now that is out of the way we can continue :check:
You should start off at around 210ppm (.3 EC) and continue raising it by .1 EC every day, the sooner you start flooding with NF Coco A&B the better.
Early on with the low nutes you should not have to use any PH adjusting stuff....just go with the flow...as long as the PH is between 5.8 and 6.3 you are golden.
Up until they start to show sex you should be able to run a slightly higher PH without problems, once you go down past PH 5.8 it will start to slow the growth (personal exp remember) so like I said....
Keep the PH going in between PH5.8 and PH6.3 after sexing and you should not encounter too many problems.
Flooding should be done at least once a day (more if ya like) for the first weeks, after sexing you may need to stop daily floods for a week or more so depending on how the plants are doing and how fast they are feeding.
Shit I hope I am making sense....
The first two /three weeks are the most important and you need to be a little careful with the nutes so you dont burn/stunt them. If you water/feed nice and gentle at the start and dont stunt them then that is already half the battle won.
That should get your plants to the sexing stage looking all nice :thumbs:
I will try and keep up with this thread my friend, but you can PM me whenever you like if you need some more assistance or are unsure about anything.
All the best with the grow my friend,
Stunted Coco
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Firstly let me start off by saying I am no expert on Coco, but I have been using NF Coco and NF Coco A & B for a while now and have had some success.....
I also do not want to step on anyone's toes, I am only going from personal experience using the above products!
Now that is out of the way we can continue :check:
You should start off at around 210ppm (.3 EC) and continue raising it by .1 EC every day, the sooner you start flooding with NF Coco A&B the better.
Early on with the low nutes you should not have to use any PH adjusting stuff....just go with the flow...as long as the PH is between 5.8 and 6.3 you are golden.
Up until they start to show sex you should be able to run a slightly higher PH without problems, once you go down past PH 5.8 it will start to slow the growth (personal exp remember) so like I said....
Keep the PH going in between PH5.8 and PH6.3 after sexing and you should not encounter too many problems.
Flooding should be done at least once a day (more if ya like) for the first weeks, after sexing you may need to stop daily floods for a week or more so depending on how the plants are doing and how fast they are feeding.
Shit I hope I am making sense....
The first two /three weeks are the most important and you need to be a little careful with the nutes so you dont burn/stunt them. If you water/feed nice and gentle at the start and dont stunt them then that is already half the battle won.
That should get your plants to the sexing stage looking all nice :thumbs:
I will try and keep up with this thread my friend, but you can PM me whenever you like if you need some more assistance or are unsure about anything.
All the best with the grow my friend,
Stunted Coco
:smokebuds:
Thanks for kind words, likes and the "puff puff pass"(leeold) above. No doubt swampman, good luck to you also on your ventures. :joint:
Firstly, I like to rep Stunted as he has been a huge influence on the switch to straight NF Coco and their nutrient line. Since he outted me for Da Buddha:twist:
Manganese.. Of course...
Well gave cobra #1, cobra #2, PJem and DDragon an accidently overdose for first feed, brain wasn't on this morning when I should of been doing simple math of 15ml/10L and my feed bottle is 1L so divide by 10.. = 1.5ml of each then lessen it for a mild does. Ended up putting half a lid of each A + B which is approx. 5ml of each. Relising this and still having cobra #3 to feed I made up a weaker mix and fed that over of the stronger mixed plants hoping to flush some out, then fed cobra #3. Run off got its flow going so might be able to sneak another weak feed in later
Hope I did not fry them before they've really even begun!
If they survive, I learned something, DON'T F'n do that again lol
Left 50W on all night aswell to see if it was the lights hight/strength or time off causing stretch, almost 24hr block of light and still slight hight increase. So while plants are draining I will hook up my 135W and then lower plants around 5inches. Atleast for daytime, night time that thing makes my room pink. If they like that then I may only use 50W at night.
Also I think my Mossys Jem is finally breaking surface. Though not sure if I want that seed in my grow if its this slow. Wish autos sexed in first week. being sober and growing weed doesn't work, every minute is like an hour!
Let me know if I should be worried for plants:group:
Firstly, I like to rep Stunted as he has been a huge influence on the switch to straight NF Coco and their nutrient line. Since he outted me for Da Buddha:twist:
Manganese.. Of course...
Well gave cobra #1, cobra #2, PJem and DDragon an accidently overdose for first feed, brain wasn't on this morning when I should of been doing simple math of 15ml/10L and my feed bottle is 1L so divide by 10.. = 1.5ml of each then lessen it for a mild does. Ended up putting half a lid of each A + B which is approx. 5ml of each. Relising this and still having cobra #3 to feed I made up a weaker mix and fed that over of the stronger mixed plants hoping to flush some out, then fed cobra #3. Run off got its flow going so might be able to sneak another weak feed in later
Hope I did not fry them before they've really even begun!
If they survive, I learned something, DON'T F'n do that again lolLeft 50W on all night aswell to see if it was the lights hight/strength or time off causing stretch, almost 24hr block of light and still slight hight increase. So while plants are draining I will hook up my 135W and then lower plants around 5inches. Atleast for daytime, night time that thing makes my room pink. If they like that then I may only use 50W at night.
Also I think my Mossys Jem is finally breaking surface. Though not sure if I want that seed in my grow if its this slow. Wish autos sexed in first week. being sober and growing weed doesn't work, every minute is like an hour!
Let me know if I should be worried for plants:group:
Damn Stunted your post wasn't there when I started mine.. so your probably making more sence then I.. I type fast, but I back space faster
Sounds like I've found another way to stunt my babies early on. If I run out of ways I'm sure my skills can make something up ha.
Have not received meters as of yet, and it would appear my old non digi Gardman PH meter only reads 6.9-7. Thats what it usually gives me for my peat/perlite Black dragon aswell.. Now with the Coco and A B, so shit don't work:no:
Today will just have to be a "wait and see" deal.
Sounds like I've found another way to stunt my babies early on. If I run out of ways I'm sure my skills can make something up ha.
Have not received meters as of yet, and it would appear my old non digi Gardman PH meter only reads 6.9-7. Thats what it usually gives me for my peat/perlite Black dragon aswell.. Now with the Coco and A B, so shit don't work:no:
Today will just have to be a "wait and see" deal.
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double posted above text. But will actually make use of this double post to correct some facts.*
Had expected meters today or yesterday but no one came to the door nor did the dog bark though he's quiet as when it's heavy raining, guess the Parcel guy didn't feel like getting drentched either so he just jammed it in the mail box with electrical goods and Mosquito dunks lol thankyou inner bubble wrap and ziplock baggy! And once again a special thanks to the friend who provided me with these essentials!! Was merely on a whim to go check mailbox for a parcel slip and glade I did:cough:
EC read 1.6 so I'm going to have to lower that some asap. I'm not quite sure as of how to use this digital PH pen as of yet, being without a probe and a innercased lens which resembles a led. Tried hovering it over soil- 7.7 then in fresh tap water read 8.6. Am really hoping I'm doing it wrong but will look into it further.
Had expected meters today or yesterday but no one came to the door nor did the dog bark though he's quiet as when it's heavy raining, guess the Parcel guy didn't feel like getting drentched either so he just jammed it in the mail box with electrical goods and Mosquito dunks lol thankyou inner bubble wrap and ziplock baggy! And once again a special thanks to the friend who provided me with these essentials!! Was merely on a whim to go check mailbox for a parcel slip and glade I did:cough:
EC read 1.6 so I'm going to have to lower that some asap. I'm not quite sure as of how to use this digital PH pen as of yet, being without a probe and a innercased lens which resembles a led. Tried hovering it over soil- 7.7 then in fresh tap water read 8.6. Am really hoping I'm doing it wrong but will look into it further.
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If you think you have given them something bad then you need to get it out as fast as possible....
One of the joys of Coco is the ability to easily get out most of what you put in if you need to, best to use PHed water (5.8-6.3) to flush with.
I just checked and:
2.5ml of NF Coco A & B in 5Ltrs of 0ppm tap water is around 280ppm (.4EC). So 5ml in 10Ltrs will be the same (280ppm/.4EC)
And just so you know your dirt PH meter will not work with Coco or liquids
For digital PH pens, take cover of end and place end (the end with the little glass bit in there) about an inch into "Liquid" for a minute or so and see what the reading is on the front.
Stunted Calculation
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One of the joys of Coco is the ability to easily get out most of what you put in if you need to, best to use PHed water (5.8-6.3) to flush with.
I just checked and:
2.5ml of NF Coco A & B in 5Ltrs of 0ppm tap water is around 280ppm (.4EC). So 5ml in 10Ltrs will be the same (280ppm/.4EC)
And just so you know your dirt PH meter will not work with Coco or liquids
For digital PH pens, take cover of end and place end (the end with the little glass bit in there) about an inch into "Liquid" for a minute or so and see what the reading is on the front.
Stunted Calculation
:smokebuds:
The plants seemed soo juiced up they were emitting water droplets from the leaves and all stretched while draining.
Yeah sounds like it works out nice for a 10L mixing/feeding bottle but mine is 1L... just didn't enter my mind when doing this(did the night before). It was morning and I was tired and dazed. Don't sleep without herb.
So for a 1L bottle used to feed them I should aim for 0.5ml of A and 0.5ml of B to work out about the same? being that 2.5/5=0.5
Not sure my shakey hands can handle that! might invest in a eye dropper or seringe.
Played around with this mix had to add about .25ml more of each to reach a kind of "middle ground" now have a 1L bottle at EC 0.5 and PH 6.3.
Think that will be tame enough for them? I relise it's boarderline..
Can lower EC but raises PH and visa versa.
Thanks for getting back to me man! was going to PM but I think this is covering all I can remember:smokebuds:
Yeah sounds like it works out nice for a 10L mixing/feeding bottle but mine is 1L... just didn't enter my mind when doing this(did the night before). It was morning and I was tired and dazed. Don't sleep without herb.
So for a 1L bottle used to feed them I should aim for 0.5ml of A and 0.5ml of B to work out about the same? being that 2.5/5=0.5
Not sure my shakey hands can handle that! might invest in a eye dropper or seringe.
Played around with this mix had to add about .25ml more of each to reach a kind of "middle ground" now have a 1L bottle at EC 0.5 and PH 6.3.
Think that will be tame enough for them? I relise it's boarderline..
Can lower EC but raises PH and visa versa.
Thanks for getting back to me man! was going to PM but I think this is covering all I can remember:smokebuds:
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Stunted
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.5 should be fine, just run that EC for a few days before starting to go up.
Also you should mix the nutes just before you use them, its not good to store it mixed up...
Stunted Vaporisoring
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Also you should mix the nutes just before you use them, its not good to store it mixed up...
Stunted Vaporisoring
:smokebuds:
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