Indoor First Grow Log 3-4 strains

[wg]

Yeah, agreeing with L&S on this one. My plants that tend to show sex @ 14 days tend to stop vertical growth a lot quicker..

 

[VapedAs]

Thanks for the Reassurence Low & Slow and Whatsgoodie2. I DO hope to see sex clearly by day 28, biggerer plants in the end sounds good too :check:

Just feel like I am losing time being auto's and all.

Can see 2-3 feeds happening though I think my pots are too small to grow plants big enough to need 4-6. But the NF coco and nutes are made for hydro so I guess it's meant for regular flow passing through.

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Flooded with 1.6 EC and 6.0 PH.

Odd that it went up 0.2PH from yesterdays 1.5 EC as apposed to the 5.8.

I don't think Cobra's #2 and #3 liked yesterdays feed but rest seem okay with it so ill try push through it, if not. I'll flush later today.:smokebuds:

 

[VapedAs]

Duurty Dragon seemed to love that last feed, was max veg feed though. But have a bad feeling it's going to be male. Guess though if your wanting a male it would be a healthy one..

Flooded all with 1.5 EC and 6.1 PH today. Was meant to be 6.0PH but meh.

Also added some more Mosquito Dunk crums to top layer as I've a few Gnats about again.

Been almost a week since I've had green, just been sniffing my Black Dragon contemplating vaping it acouple weeks early but would get F all off it now.

 

[Stunted]

Can see 2-3 feeds happening though I think my pots are too small to grow plants big enough to need 4-6. But the NF coco and nutes are made for hydro so I guess it's meant for regular flow passing through.

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Flooded with 1.6 EC and 6.0 PH.
Odd that it went up 0.2PH from yesterdays 1.5 EC as apposed to the 5.8.
I don't think Cobra's #2 and #3 liked yesterdays feed but rest seem okay with it so ill try push through it, if not. I'll flush later today.:smokebuds:

Stunted's opinion on the Coco flooding frequency debate: I will put what I do/use and why
(This is based on my use of NF Coco and NF Coco A&B)
(How much to flood with is another subject....personally I use the following rule and so far it has served me well.)
"Flood amount = Pot size" (E.g. 1Ltr pot gets 1Ltr nutrient flood, 800ml pot gets 800ml nutrient flood...K)
That should get you a good amount of runoff.

Before planting:
I run some NF A&B through the NF Coco at around 200ppm and PH6.0
Coco has no nutrients in it at all and I find by adding a little nutes to the pots early it helps keep the sprouts nice and healthy with very fast growth.

Day 1...Planting (200ppm @ PH6.0 used)
After the sprouts are in the Coco I water (with nutes) very gently until a tiny bit of runoff starts, this settles the Coco and sprout in place nicely.

Day 2-4 (maybe more...maybe less...depends on how fast the little sprout grows really)
Nothing, they already have what they need.
I tend to leave them alone for a couple of days after planting so they can settle in.
I need to get sand/DE/Stones on the top of the Coco as soon as possible to stop the Fungus Gnats but dont like doing it until the sprouts are a couple of inches high.

Day 4+ to the end.
The day after the Sand/DE/Stones goes on I start flooding once a day, it continues like that until the end of the grow!

Sometimes around day 14-20ish the plants can start to look overwatered (whole plant looks kinda droopy and growth can slow), if that happens I will stop the daily flood and flood once every two days until the plant is big enough to handle the daily floods.

So that is one way to do it and saves on nutrients....and works well (for me)

If you want to really save on nutes then flood less often, if you use large pots then you could do this easily as they wont dry out as fast as small ones.

I have also toyed around with two floods per day from start until day 20ish, growth is enhanced a bit with two floods a day but only up to a point...at the moment I feel it is not worth the added work or nutrients and will stick with one flood per day.

As for doing 4-6 floods per day running flood to waste....WTF..you may as well pour your bottles of nutes down the drain hole as that is where most will be going anyway. Not a very cost effective way to grow if ya ask me!

And the slight PH variation you see (.2) is likely caused by your tap water, your area has one of the worst pH Compliance rates with ADWG (Australian Drinking Water Guidelines)......

But then again the guideline states "Based on the need to reduce corrosion and encrustation in pipes and fittings, the pH of drinking water should be between 6.5 and 8.5."

8.5 out of the tap would be nasty for plants...

Hopefully you will find all that helpful in some way, took fkn ages to type all that shit...and I aint stoned (until later).

P.S. You will be surprised how big a plant can get in a small pot without even trying

Fingers still crossed my friend,
Stunted Watering
:smokebuds:

 

[VapedAs]

Nah Bro, your tiny pots and huge plants was all you! We shall see what happens with me.

I mix up a single 1 Litre bottle of water with A&B and that gets about 10-20% runoff of the fluid put through coco for all 6 plants. So I am flooding with less fluid than you in ratio to coco medium but getting desired run off.. anymore and it's just watching money go down the drain.

I totally agree 4-6 floods is insane amount of waste. I ain't doing that with my 1L bottles of NF haha can see why it comes in 5L bottles.

I try to flick through your log on occasion for handy hints and recapping my guidelines but having you type that here now is much appreciated, as I didnt add the 200ppm to the straight coco before planting nor for first few days.

Thanks Stunted

Yeah tap water reads right around 8.5... we used to have some of the best water in Aus, wtf happened there plus all their additives now.

I know SA has water full of metals and alike. Most people there drink rain/filtered or bought water there. What is water like in your state?

Also, WHY ARE YOU NOT STONED YET? Almost been another week without green for me.
I missed a lasses B'day drinks/smoke/pills night on the weekend in Vic I should of come down for a shag there and than come round yours for a hit on da buddha!:smokebuds:

 

[StormsEniGma]

any recent pics?

 

[VapedAs]

Hey Storm, I might do a group shot once they are done draining and back in cab as I just flooded em.
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VERY SAD last night was 90% sure my Duurty Dragon was Male and knew I'd know by this morning. And yeah.. now 99.9% sure its male.. (biggest plant) So not sure I wanna pull it.

Woke up with dried tears and my Vapes whip on me and semi-vaped weed sprawled across the bed:roflcry:

Can only hope my Purple Jem(2nd biggest) goes female so I maybe I can get something decent to smoke OR try cross them.
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Flooded all with 1.4 EC(980ppm) 6.0 PH
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Been sticking with my 50W but I think its seriously lacking the penetration to the Node growth so going to try a session of no idea how many hours with my 135W, somewhere before I bleach them haha

 

[StormsEniGma]

maybe move the dragon outside?

 

[VapedAs]

Group Pic's using diff lights

2700k warm cfl

135W BS

 

[VapedAs]

@Storm, I am undecided what to do with it really. It's still a ways from being a problem to the other plants, especially since nothing else has shown sex except the old Black dragon. (seperation is a wise choice when dealing with males though):check:
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Tied that BD down some more before taking those pic's that's why it looks a bit different.
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Fair bit of growth between those 4days of the group pics of youngsters