Help Requested-Not a Clue What This Is !

[StickMan]

Went, in and mixed up some EWC/Guano/BSM tea (for foliar feeding) and started aerating it.

jm, I just sat down and reread your recommendation on the foliar feed for the Potassium Def, and your comment on the foliar tea I WAS aerating for a early morning feed. It has been a very hectic day, and I did not read close enough to realize that I needed to foliar feed for just a Potassium Def. I was obviously making a full on veg tea for NPK Def.

that ewc foliar should be done early morning justb as the sun is rising so they can dry quickle after... otherwise you will feed the fungus which are now present, eating, and hungry...

Thanks for commenting on it, as it made me realize that I most likely would be feeding the fungus. That makes complete sense. (note to self-accelerate your academic learning about biology and horticulture).
Anyway now aerating just with the volume of molasses and Epsom salt that you recommended, plus half TBL of Kelp meal.

jm, X, waira, cress, and all others, thank-you so much for taking the time to troubleshoot this for me.:tiphat:
I just hope I will be able to play it forward somewhat in the future, with these issues. For now I just do what I am able in helping others.




I will keep everyone apprised going forward of this latest adventure of mine.

 

[X]

You know guys... I never hear anybody mention it, but molasses has lots of K in it... at least, the kind I use does.

 

[StickMan]

7/6 a.m. Update

K def. appears to have slowed down in visible signs this morning.

There was very few leaf tip necrosis. Removed what there was.

Foliar fed all plants indoors and out with Black Strap Molasses, Epsom Salt, and Kelp Meal that was aerated overnight. Would of liked to aerate it longer due to the Kelp Meal, but it still had a 'nice sea aroma' to it this morning. Hope enough of the K was extracted with the short soak/aeration cycle. Do I need to get some liquid seaweed/kelp, or will just aerating longer be fine?

You know guys... I never hear anybody mention it, but molasses has lots of K in it... at least, the kind I use does.

X, are you talking about Black Strap Molasses here, or.....?

 

[X]

X, are you talking about Black Strap Molasses here, or.....?

I haven't seen any that wasn't high in "K", but I've never heard it mentioned in the forums... which has always seemed odd to me. I use a regional brand called "Slow as" which has a whole lotta "K". But, Grandma's or Brer Rabbit has a lot too, I think.

 

[Waira]

Right you are, X! I guess so much focus goes to the Ca-Mg part of it, K kinda gets dis'ed! Stones slap The ol' light bulb flickered back on when you mentioned that, so I went to the cupboard and grabbed both Grandma's and Brer Rabbit brands; here's what the labeling states: (% are daily values, only K is given a numerical quantity) BR- K/210mg, Ca 8%, Mg 8%, Fe 2%; Gr- K/110mg, Ca 2%, Mg 2%, Fe 2%
other stuff like Na, total carbs are almost the same, with G's having slightly higher total carb/sugar than BR (16g/14g vs. 15g/12g)..... Hmmm, interesting differences; looks like the plants and soil 'crobes would prefer BR.... LOL!- Personally, I love molasses flavor, and when cooking I prefer G's over BR's, which has a slightly harsher, earthier flavor... (oh man, now I'm craving a Shoo-Fly pie!.. one of my grandma's classic's! :drool .......I guess this accounts for the flavor differences too; must be slightly different processing, since both are made by B&G Foods, Parsippany, NJ.... So, one brand for me, one for the plants it is! ******* STICKMAN- That's good news, mate! I don't know about the 'black strap' part, I think it applies to both, and have seen it on labels, but oddly, neither of mine does, at least any more,... I know I've seen it labeled so before, .... removed recently as redundant? not PC?.. don't know what the term 'black strap' means, so... the only other product I've seen is something called Ribbon Syrup, same color and flavor, but much thinner consistency... Anyway, keep us posted, Stick', and I'll get back to you message at my thread today, theoretically! stylez rasta smoke

 

[StickMan]

Just found this great info on molasses over at 420.commag.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/soil/76723-sweet-organic-goodness-magical-molasses.html

Here is a 'short' excerpt from the article. Very worth while reading in it's entirety.
I read it, and copied and pasted into my documents.

In addition to sugars, molasses contains significant amounts of potash, sulfur, and a variety of micronutrients. Because molasses is derived from plants, and because the manufacturing processes that create it remove mostly sugars, the majority of the mineral nutrients that were contained in the original sugar cane or sugar beet are still present in molasses. This is a critical factor because a balanced supply of mineral nutrients is essential for those “beneficial beasties” to survive and thrive. That’s one of the secrets we’ve discovered to really successful organic gardening, the micronutrients found in organic amendments like molasses, kelp, and alfalfa were all derived from other plant sources and are quickly and easily available to our soil and plants. This is especially important for the soil “micro-herd” of critters who depend on
tiny amounts of those trace minerals as catalysts to make the enzymes that create biochemical transformations. That last sentence was our fancy way of saying - it’s actually the critters in “live soil” that break down organic fertilizers and “feed” it to our plants.

One final benefit molasses can provide to your garden is it’s ability to work as a chelating agent. That’s a scientific way of saying that molasses is one of those “magical” substances that can convert some chemical nutrients into a form that’s easily available for critters and plants. Chelated minerals can be absorbed directly and remain available and stable in the
soil. Rather than spend a lot of time and effort explaining the relationships between chelates and micronutrients, we are going to quote one of our favorite sources for explaining soil for scientific laymen.

“Micronutrients occur, in cells as well as in soil, as part of large, complex organic molecules in chelated form. The word chelate (pronounced “KEE-late”) comes from the Greek word for “claw,” which indicates how a single nutrient ion is held in the center of the larger molecule. The finely balanced interactions between micronutrients are complex and not fully understood. We do know that balance is crucial; any micronutrient, when present in excessive amounts, will become a poison, and certain poisonous elements, such as chlorine are also essential micronutrients.

For this reason natural, organic sources of micronutrients are the best means of supplying them to the soil; they are present in balanced quantities and not liable to be over applied through error or ignorance. When used in naturally chelated form, excess micronutrients will be locked up and prevented from disrupting soil balance.”

Excerpted from “The Soul of Soil”
by Grace Gershuny and Joe Smillie

 

[JM]

yeah... I forgot about the moilasses having K also...

I think I'd foliar feed early every morning until thos plant start burning some of that extra water in your soil...

the kelp was a great idea... liquid is better... in SMALL amounts... just think like you're eating through your skin... and satill trying to breathe through it... so light applications .... maybe every other day... but at this point its really their only nutrient source and they are at stage 3 "Frame building" which is highly intensive nutrient requirement.

Sorry for the delay... actually took a night off..

good link on the molasses... we have one on-site too... I dont always remember what we have... been building this database for almost 4 years now.. :dance2:

https://www.autoflower.org/f74/magical-molasses-lock-stock-barrell-full-6497.html

 

[JM]

I'd stay away from guano foliars until your plants are healthy again... you dont want to encourage the fungus and other cleanup crew to start early.. lol they are incredibly efficient and will be done when you show up at work and already drunk and rowdy...

 

[JM]

LOL!... only if Sitar music surrounds your general proximity with no visible source of origin! :jaw: .......Being half Japanese, I'm used to the term being used in a very everyday, non-grandiose manner, simply as 'instructor', could be for ikebana (flower arranging), judo, etc.,

I appreciate the respect mate... just dont want to create an environment where people see me on some pedestal... I'm human.

 

[Waira]

Jm}- Roger that, mate! *** I was rather surprised at the differences in the molasses brands... and to a lesser degree, that the brands are coming from the same manufacturer, in the NE, for pete's sake! Well, I guess it doesn't matter where they ship the beets, or cane whichever they use.... *** About the fungicide sprays, I know neem is the general go-to choice, but I'm thinking that the S or Cu sprays have more killing power, but should be limited to only vegetative stages; some plants find Cu too harsh, as well... I haven't used either, for lack of need fortunately! Do you have experience with these? And are they even okay for MJ?... Just for future reference Thanks Jm! ..... LOL! still thinking about that Shoo-fly-pie,...:smoke:Mmmm nom-nom-nom...