Mephisto Genetics how true are the descriptions of meph seeds effects

I'm echoing @slowandeasy its sour crack, gold glue and strawberry nuggets for the best sleep. BUT sometimes I know people who drink do get used to "that feeling" that comes with alcohol, the sleepiness which knocks you out but for a little bit has that edge to it (I used to drink heavily to try to sleep for years. I'd drink a fifth of vodka a night to get sleep then switched to cannabis and stopped drinking at night ). And I tell you what. You really should consider 3bog if you can do a 4th. It's close in there for a 4th.
Sour crack is, in my opinion, one of their better sleep strains able to knock you out. It literally is done in 60 days. I'm running 4 now. 2 in 3 gal air pots (those pots are too big for the plant should have used 2 gal air pots) 1 in a 1 gal air pot, and 1 in 5 gal dwc. Even in dwc it's just as fast as, if not faster than, in soil. So it's very true to its speed. Again it's a small plant so if you're expecting monster yields, you wont get them. Sour crack is a strain to sog. I always have sour crack seeds available for those times when I need a fast reliable and strong strain. I had a major set back when a humungous plant that took up my entire 24x48x60 tent (I was thinking it could have got 120 days and been a pounder the way it was looking) died due to my air stone dying from my stupidity and lack of attention to it. I used a lot of bio additives and it clogges... anyway, for these specific reasons i keep sour crack so i can stuff it all in and have a harvest to tide me over and be back on track for a bigger harvest. So sour crack is a good one for all occasions.

Thank you for replying.
out of curio why the 3bog ?
 
I'm on my last jar of Mephisto 3 Bears OG for sleep. You might like Royal Queen Stress Killer strain.

what was your take on the effects of 3bog ?
i ask as i am a lightweight with most weed , and would like to narrow down my field till i get some decent tolerance up
 
I agree with you. Double Grape is a frosty strain, but doesn't smell like grape..nothing compared to Sour Stompers grape smelling pheno. But a great strain, with tons of visual appeal. 3 BOG is good, I have grown many. I done a vast majority of Mephisto strains. Sour Crack is a VERY special plant. It is why I chose to grow Mephisto initially. I bought a ton of Sour Crack, 24 Carat, and Toof Decay my first order. Sour Crack impressed me from the get go and I will always hace that strain in my possession. It is the base for some amazing Crosses along with anything with Walter White. White Crack is a perfect example of what I like. Fast, medium sized, dense, frosty, and great structure. I prefer Rosin producing strains for personal. Everyone has their own personal needs and opinions. I love Sour Crack because I can run a really nice plant start to finish in 2 months and not take up a ton of space. It is always dense. So even a small/Medium pheno yields well. I have a few Blue Cush seeds, and I was told they can finish as fast as Sour Crack. The one I did took a little longer, but smelled nice and yield was just ok. I think that I will do a side by side in a couple weeks Blue Cush vs Sour Crack. Btw Sour Crinkle is a great Strain! I have a few going now..They finish fast and are a little bigger than Sour Crack. Not as Indica

what would you say is the main effects of sour crack ?
i ask as I'm a lightweight tbh and don't really want to grow a load of stuff that i can't use and waste my time.
 
Thank you for replying.
out of curio why the 3bog ?
3bog has a lot of effects that many people miss out on. Having my history with alcohol, I know how alcohol has that "feeling" to it that kinda makes you fall asleep which you dont quite get in some cannabis strains. 3bog has a bit more of that than some, plus it has that pain relief that you kinda feel from alcohol and a bit of that couch lock feeling you get from from alcohol. The karma's bear og cut mixed with triangle kush helps really round it out in a way that dosent seem to get in to any other mephisto strain. When it first came out it surprised me as a good strain for users who weren't looking for medical strains related to epilepsy (my hubby has seizures idk if I said), but has the sleepiness needed and you dont need much and is a nice high too or can be a low dose and sleepy. You can mix it in with those other 3 in an even ratio and get that perfect synergistic effect. 3bog is such a good synergizing strain and such a great strain on it's own. If you've ever had those times when you wanna have a good mixed drink where you get a much better sleep from that than just a beer. Well that's where the 3bog can do its thing. Plus a bit of munchies cant be wrong. I also found the smoke not to be so harsh on my lungs compared to those other strains. So I took that in to account when suggesting 3bog. For me harshness is a big thing. Skunk strains also can be too much. Always having strong skunk strains or all berry strains and no og type or variety means no mix of terpine and flavonoids to give you the best sleep. And different base genetics give a greater mix of cannabinoid profiles. :)
Hope that helps you :d5:
 
what would you say is the main effects of sour crack ?
i ask as I'm a lightweight tbh and don't really want to grow a load of stuff that i can't use and waste my time.
Depends on how much you consume. If you want to smoke in the daytime, don't use too much. I make Rosin and can't do too many dabs of it in the daytime. It is a great night time Herb. Like most Indica based strains it will help with sleep. It does give me some munchies, but no severe. It is potent, but a great strain. Fast, dense, and potent.
 
3bog has a lot of effects that many people miss out on. Having my history with alcohol, I know how alcohol has that "feeling" to it that kinda makes you fall asleep which you dont quite get in some cannabis strains. 3bog has a bit more of that than some, plus it has that pain relief that you kinda feel from alcohol and a bit of that couch lock feeling you get from from alcohol. The karma's bear og cut mixed with triangle kush helps really round it out in a way that dosent seem to get in to any other mephisto strain. When it first came out it surprised me as a good strain for users who weren't looking for medical strains related to epilepsy (my hubby has seizures idk if I said), but has the sleepiness needed and you dont need much and is a nice high too or can be a low dose and sleepy. You can mix it in with those other 3 in an even ratio and get that perfect synergistic effect. 3bog is such a good synergizing strain and such a great strain on it's own. If you've ever had those times when you wanna have a good mixed drink where you get a much better sleep from that than just a beer. Well that's where the 3bog can do its thing. Plus a bit of munchies cant be wrong. I also found the smoke not to be so harsh on my lungs compared to those other strains. So I took that in to account when suggesting 3bog. For me harshness is a big thing. Skunk strains also can be too much. Always having strong skunk strains or all berry strains and no og type or variety means no mix of terpine and flavonoids to give you the best sleep. And different base genetics give a greater mix of cannabinoid profiles. :)
Hope that helps you :d5:

what a fantastic well thought out reply, Thank you.
u have my ears, i am a drinker that rarely starts before 8.15 pm , even on holidays albeit a small beer here and there , i always wait till after 8pm till i start, and will then do my best to get in my quota before bed to make sure that i will sleep,
this results in me tanking as much as needed before I've had enough to make sure i sleep, if i don't get my quota i would/will spend the night constantly looking over the edge of the duvet or hoping id go to sleep in the next ten minutes and wake up refreshed in the morning = this never happens and with my thoughts racing, the problem i have with this approach is that it has led me to an anxiety problem, i never quite understood anxiety as my better half of 26 years has suffered it and i honestly thought it was a state of mind ( which in reality it is ) i used to go to work and think wtf is wrong with her : we have 2 businesses, 2 homes , 2 cars, 2 kids that are great and healthy, no money problems and are free to live our lives on our terms no ifs or buts , then i had a panic attack after suffering an engine malfunction at 90mph which was the start of my driving phobia,
I'm deffo going to do 3bog now upon your recommendation .
I'm going to in the next month start :
3bog
strawberry nuggets
sour crack
gold glue

1 of each and see what they bring to the table
I'm only in a 1x1 tent so maybe able to squeeze in an extra sour crack side by side to make sure i got a full tent
 
what a fantastic well thought out reply, Thank you.
u have my ears, i am a drinker that rarely starts before 8.15 pm , even on holidays albeit a small beer here and there , i always wait till after 8pm till i start, and will then do my best to get in my quota before bed to make sure that i will sleep,
this results in me tanking as much as needed before I've had enough to make sure i sleep, if i don't get my quota i would/will spend the night constantly looking over the edge of the duvet or hoping id go to sleep in the next ten minutes and wake up refreshed in the morning = this never happens and with my thoughts racing, the problem i have with this approach is that it has led me to an anxiety problem, i never quite understood anxiety as my better half of 26 years has suffered it and i honestly thought it was a state of mind ( which in reality it is ) i used to go to work and think wtf is wrong with her : we have 2 businesses, 2 homes , 2 cars, 2 kids that are great and healthy, no money problems and are free to live our lives on our terms no ifs or buts , then i had a panic attack after suffering an engine malfunction at 90mph which was the start of my driving phobia,
I'm deffo going to do 3bog now upon your recommendation .
I'm going to in the next month start :
3bog
strawberry nuggets
sour crack
gold glue

1 of each and see what they bring to the table
I'm only in a 1x1 tent so maybe able to squeeze in an extra sour crack side by side to make sure i got a full tent
Just remember with Autos you can have a different pheno with a different seed. Also @MissUniverse points out a change in Toof Decay from one batch/generation to the next. So if you start 1 of each, keep an open mind as you could have a different pheno next time. Also you can harvest on the early side for a more uppy buzz or take longer for sedative effects. So u may even want to try to harvest the tops one week and let the lowers go longer. If you need it for sleep, don't harvest too early. I have some Sativa plants I won't use at night, it will wire me. But none of the above strains are not going to wire you. 3 Bears OG has a large pheno, I grew in DWC and got 10+ oz from her. Sticky and stanky. I have had a few different Phenos. Strawberry Nuggets gets bushy, so don't underestimate the width it can produce. Good luck. Slow
 
what a fantastic well thought out reply, Thank you.
u have my ears, i am a drinker that rarely starts before 8.15 pm , even on holidays albeit a small beer here and there , i always wait till after 8pm till i start, and will then do my best to get in my quota before bed to make sure that i will sleep,
this results in me tanking as much as needed before I've had enough to make sure i sleep, if i don't get my quota i would/will spend the night constantly looking over the edge of the duvet or hoping id go to sleep in the next ten minutes and wake up refreshed in the morning = this never happens and with my thoughts racing, the problem i have with this approach is that it has led me to an anxiety problem, i never quite understood anxiety as my better half of 26 years has suffered it and i honestly thought it was a state of mind ( which in reality it is ) i used to go to work and think wtf is wrong with her : we have 2 businesses, 2 homes , 2 cars, 2 kids that are great and healthy, no money problems and are free to live our lives on our terms no ifs or buts , then i had a panic attack after suffering an engine malfunction at 90mph which was the start of my driving phobia,
I'm deffo going to do 3bog now upon your recommendation .
I'm going to in the next month start :
3bog
strawberry nuggets
sour crack
gold glue

1 of each and see what they bring to the table
I'm only in a 1x1 tent so maybe able to squeeze in an extra sour crack side by side to make sure i got a full tent

So you're definitely on the right track with those plant selections to get to sleep and wanting to shut off the mind and you know what im talking about with that few moments of clarity of thought before the "hey what happened? its the next morning already? I've been asleep for 12 hours?!? WTF, i thought I was just watching I Love Lucy!?!". It's hard to describe how it is to those who never had to drink just to try and sleep. I will say when you first step over from drinking to smoking, its gonna be hard to give up the bottle. You will have the shakes for a week or two and mentally want a drink every night for about 3 months. but DONT GIVE UP!!!!(I'm not trying to be mean in saying all this, i had to do it myself, and i had to go cold turkey, doctor said it was 28 days or nothing, i couldn't let the hubby alone for 28 days. So the cannabis it was, reminding me every moment how much i needed to be away from nightly binge drinking and keep it in moderation).
Anywhoo, sorry again to sound so much like a parent lecturing, im just giving the low down on me

I suggest you get yourself a vape and give vaping a try when you do the switch over to cannabis for sleep, even if you smoke it now. I go back and forth between vaping and smoking. Now and again ill do edibles, but they can take forever, and then last forever, and sometimes for me they dont work and theres no rhyme or reason. Same for my hubby, but either he has and i havent, i have and he hasent or everyone else has had the same batches and doses and been bombed and we arent....
For a few months ill smoke, then ill vape for a few months then back and forth. The nice thing about the strains you picked out
It's always good to have both. I will say, when you have a good supply for your sleep and know how your growing goes,

you're gonna find you wanna have some double grape for those timesyou do want that occasional super special smoke because its a hell of a lot cheaper than having to get a 6 pack and easier than finding it on last moments notice on Christmas day! I know its silly, but all these strains are strong as shit. like the lowest thc is sour crack
1 meter

As far as anxiety, yes it is a state of mind, but also it is a chemical, physical, emotional and neurological state of mind too (and may be other states to which I will yield to others beliefs and opinions). the fact is that chemical and neurological signals along with emotional queues all play into the issues surrounding anxiety and phobias as well as attacks. There are so many easy ways to just write it off as just some easy problem that one should just ignore. But in all reality, your reality is the reality that is real to you. Just as my reality is the reality that is real to me and is the only reality i see. To you your reality is the only one that exists. Just as to another person reading this, their reality is the only one that exists. We all live in a coexistence through which our realities are so meshed and intertwined together that they become one and the same reality and as such we begin to lose touch with the fact that we do have our own person. Remember this phrase "I matter". So it is ok to deal with having anxiety as long as we acknowledge that others do not have "our" reality to deal with, but their reality has its own cravats. Just like different strands of yarn may be yarn, they still have different materials that make them up, yet they all come together to make a blanket that creates the tapestry we call humanity. We are able to stand up strong because we take the help from each other, their strengths are our weaknesses. So I encourage you to make sure you keep posting here, and make sure any anxiety you may have about asking questions here fly free. feel free to pm me, tag me ( type @MissUniverse ) and if i can help ill try or i can just tag someone who can help

when you say 1x1 i assume 1 metre x 1 metre. if so, that should be ok. I run in a 24inch x 48inch x 60in tall and run 6-8 packed in there as tight as possible and it gets me a good grow. also as you get along further you can start doing perpetual growing and just always have a harvest every about 3 weeks and have bud always coming in.

hopefully i didnt offend you with this reply, but i figured you appreciated a long drawn out message last time, so i would take the time to write out a long one this time too. if you want to, feel free to follow me (you can click my profile pic which is the weed flower and then hit follow in the box that pops up, or click to my profile page here https://autoflower.net/forums/members/missuniverse.31870/, and then to the right hit follow). I went a head and followed you.
Please document your grow here, i want to see it and see you do well!

the obligatory end note this is not to be taken as medical advice see your doctor disclaimer here, just friendly advice from someone whose been there and done that. wds from alcohol are horrible!!!!
 
what was your take on the effects of 3bog ?
i ask as i am a lightweight with most weed , and would like to narrow down my field till i get some decent tolerance up
Pretty darn good high considering that I've only missed two days of vaping in the last 12 or so years and if I take 3 Bears during the day, 2 hits and I am nicely stoned. I usually take 3 hits for bed, but will probably drop to 2 hits. It has yet to fail in the snooze department.
 
Just remember with Autos you can have a different pheno with a different seed. Also @MissUniverse points out a change in Toof Decay from one batch/generation to the next. So if you start 1 of each, keep an open mind as you could have a different pheno next time. Also you can harvest on the early side for a more uppy buzz or take longer for sedative effects. So u may even want to try to harvest the tops one week and let the lowers go longer. If you need it for sleep, don't harvest too early. I have some Sativa plants I won't use at night, it will wire me. But none of the above strains are not going to wire you. 3 Bears OG has a large pheno, I grew in DWC and got 10+ oz from her. Sticky and stanky. I have had a few different Phenos. Strawberry Nuggets gets bushy, so don't underestimate the width it can produce. Good luck. Slow
I know you're not new to growing so this isnt neccesarily pointed at anyone particular in the thread but just to the general audience reading this thread and for the people in the future reading this thread
Heed @slowandeasy on this one. While I am of the school of thought that science shows the plant's max terpinoid, flavonoid and cannabinoid content will be at its peak and best state when all trichomes are milky, many want their effects to be different and the plant will metabolize the cannabinoids further as the plant ages. What a lot of growers will do is they will usually try this method of snip one bud when you think its done and do a fast dry in a few hours and smoke it. See how it does, if it's good chop the plant and trim, if not let it go a few days and try again. You know you may have lost a couple grams early. But if the plant is ready, then its ready and go to town. It really helps with mephisto strains especially for some reason. Plant effecta can have a very big difference in only a few days.

And yes, phenos can vary over time if refinements are made and seeds are still a genetic roll of the dice, just refined and mostly all the same number on every side but theres still random chance. And it is a discussion that was ongoing about a week back here. And things change. too and over time autos will advance further. I can honestly see autos overtaking photos for small home grows. In going to attempt photos but doubt I'll ever clone or do it for any serious attempt. Why spend 100 days for something I can do in 75 days... That's why I've learned when you find what works.... BUY THE WHOLE STORE:crying:
 
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