New Grower Identify this bug

[Cptn Feathersword]

Neem oil....

Unfortunately I cannot find it in my part of the world

 

[Cptn Feathersword]

while the damage can look similar trust me they are differnet to the trained eye. its about their mouth parts, i am interested in your holey leaf only cause i want to help, and you describing holes in your leaves isn't much help

Yeah I totally understand that man and I tried but its just not possible to do it without breaking my self imposed rule. Please understand that, its cool to post pics for a lot of people but for me it could have severe consequences.
My home made spray will get a test run tomorrow and I am killing the white ones with my fingers.

 

[derek420colorado]

Yeah I totally understand that man and I tried but its just not possible to do it without breaking my self imposed rule. Please understand that, its cool to post pics for a lot of people but for me it could have severe consequences.
My home made spray will get a test run tomorrow and I am killing the white ones with my fingers.

ok cool