Lighting If you had $5000 to blow on leds for your room - what would you buy?

Timber was a deal a few months ago but currently it's no comparison to sourcing your own parts. I bought plenty of those kits when parts came to 85per cob separately. Then add in the fact he is using 35 watt sst105 heatsinks on 50w driven cobs and no explanation when I voiced my concern. Still a decent kit just not as economical as it once was.

As far as new tech taking over, in my main room I'm still running 3070's which are very old at this point. I still pull around 1.5gpw with the 3070's like I did when they were new. New cobs could help but not worth the upgrade until they become allot better then what I have now.

Also very expensive considering citizens price and performance. You can buy 3 citizens and a coffee vs 1 Cree.

Hello @BigSm0

Thanks for your post. Unfortunately, your data is incorrect. We utilize Cooliance CPL10070-XXX heat sinks which are rated for up to 73 Watts under passive conditions - here is a link to Cooliance's datasheet for that heat sink:

http://www.cooliance.com/Assets/Datasheets/CPL100-XXX-Series-Data-Sheet.pdf

Additionally, we consulted with the Cooliance engineering team when selecting the appropriate passive heat sinks to use in our kits.

Citizen LEDs are very well priced - Cree CXB3590 COB LEDs have a long history of being successful in growing cannabis - and there are countless documented successful grows using them under varying conditions with varying strains.

Regards,
Dan

Timber Grow Lights
 
If you want it easy peasy.... you take your pic... tasty or Amare. I have an amare panel and it is very very nice and is one sexy light. But the tasty is a bad ass lamp as well my friend....

If you want to diy timber makes some kits that are ready to go with very little work... but still some lol... if I had 5 grand in hand for LIGHTS ONLY...... ide be rocking a room full of amare 450s.... just my 2 cents
 
Or Northern Growlights! Also cobkits.com is a great DIY light source

If you want it easy peasy.... you take your pic... tasty or Amare. I have an amare panel and it is very very nice and is one sexy light. But the tasty is a bad ass lamp as well my friend....

If you want to diy timber makes some kits that are ready to go with very little work... but still some lol... if I had 5 grand in hand for LIGHTS ONLY...... ide be rocking a room full of amare 450s.... just my 2 cents
 
Hello @BigSm0

Thanks for your post. Unfortunately, your data is incorrect. We utilize Cooliance CPL10070-XXX heat sinks which are rated for up to 73 Watts under passive conditions - here is a link to Cooliance's datasheet for that heat sink:

http://www.cooliance.com/Assets/Datasheets/CPL100-XXX-Series-Data-Sheet.pdf

Additionally, we consulted with the Cooliance engineering team when selecting the appropriate passive heat sinks to use in our kits.

Citizen LEDs are very well priced - Cree CXB3590 COB LEDs have a long history of being successful in growing cannabis - and there are countless documented successful grows using them under varying conditions with varying strains.

Regards,
Dan

Timber Grow Lights


I hate to have a negative conversation on the product you have worked hard on, this is why I wish we continued to talk when I first mentioned my concerns. My opinion is that the kits were absolutely a phenomenal price before prices began to plunge, now with the fairly new introduction to citizen cobs I believe Cree as a competitor is over priced.

This was also the sheet I brought to you on the other forum. My first concern was the sized heatsink is identical to the sst105 which is indeed rated for 35w.
understand the confusion when it's now said to cool over 50% more than its twin. Second part that I don't understand is this chart is rated at an 80% efficient source. 3590's driver at 1.4a are said to be 62% efficient which is 18% less then the chart states. Quick math suggests 59w not 73w but well within specs of your kit.

Based on chart 2 at 50 watts on an 80% efficient source it puts the heatsinks at 40c above ambient temps. 40c=104f and in a 78degree room now puts the heatsink temp at 182 degrees or closer to 200 degrees on a 62% efficient cob. This is much warmer than the sst120's which have a rating of 55w from ngl. I don't want anyone to be wrong here I just want to understand why my numbers are higher.
 
If you want it easy peasy.... you take your pic... tasty or Amare. I have an amare panel and it is very very nice and is one sexy light. But the tasty is a bad ass lamp as well my friend....

If you want to diy timber makes some kits that are ready to go with very little work... but still some lol... if I had 5 grand in hand for LIGHTS ONLY...... ide be rocking a room full of amare 450s.... just my 2 cents
Story of my life 9 months ago.:rofl:
 
MAN, I dont know what I would ideally do. would prolly buy one of each of the high high end lights that rank well is what I would prolly do along with a full Photo Labs kit done as a whole unit for a different type of scrog growing I would like to do. good gawd could you imagine the upgrade in how everyones grows would go through the roof if we all were able to do a similar thing LMFAO! what a trip. no site would touch us..LIKE EVER LOl not that they do now but just sayin LOL!
 
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