New Grower LED for 4x4 tent

I'm leaning toward Mars 900 (425w actual) in veg configuration, Mars 1200 (560w) in bloom. California Lightworks (solar storm) does 235w veg, 320w bloom. So, this would be *way* above what they do for about the same price as a Solar Storm 440.

What's impressive about TopLED is the amount of light you get for the dollar. Everyone else does 275w to 350w actual draw for a 4x4 area. Calif. Lightworks is running 72% full wattage. Whereas the Mars 900 is well above actual draw (at 425w) and runs at less than 50% full wattage. (Almost twice the lights driven more gently and producing 50% more light?).

How repairable are these lights? If a bulb or component burns out in 3-4 years, can I buy a replacement part and fix it?
 
I'm leaning toward Mars 900 (425w actual) in veg configuration, Mars 1200 (560w) in bloom. California Lightworks (solar storm) does 235w veg, 320w bloom. So, this would be *way* above what they do for about the same price as a Solar Storm 440.

What's impressive about TopLED is the amount of light you get for the dollar. Everyone else does 275w to 350w actual draw for a 4x4 area. Calif. Lightworks is running 72% full wattage. Whereas the Mars 900 is well above actual draw (at 425w) and runs at less than 50% full wattage. (Almost twice the lights driven more gently and producing 50% more light?).

How repairable are these lights? If a bulb or component burns out in 3-4 years, can I buy a replacement part and fix it?

They come with a three year warranty, They have live chat but only during weekdays in China so middle of the night in USA. They will ship out repair parts for free, they respond to e-mails within 24 hrs also on weekdays. They have warehouses in USA, China, UK, and Australia for fast shipping times... These were the only reasons I trusted a china light.

If you get the lights and you see a few diodes that look like they arent working dont worry they are the infa red diodes and we cant see the light with our eyes..
 
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Whatever light or lights you decide on this site has a lot of good info and reviews, make sure you look at the review section there are a lot of good lights out there.

Thanks for all the input. I decided to start small with two Lighthouse Blackstar 180w v2.0 (UV and HO, flower and veg lights) for my 2x4 autoflower tent. They are supposedly 105w actual draw -- which is 26w per sq. ft. After I get some experience I'll decide what to do about my 4x4 photosensitive tent.

I came close to buying the Mars light. But, some things gave me doubts/concerns:

1. The relative efficiency of 3w lights using reflectors/lenses to make the most use of every stray bit of light, or 5w which is strong enough that you don't need the expense of those material/labor intensive accoutrements.

"Efficiency" can be measured different ways. Electrical, time and cost of materials and assembly, etc. I've got a feeling the 3w lights produce more "light per watt" than the 5w light. But, per dollar, the 5w (probably) produce more light.

Being new to this, I'm not sure which should be more important to me. My primary goal is to reduce heat. So, I think energy efficiency (3w with added labor/material cost of lens and reflector) is what I should lean toward.

I would have bought their 192x3w "Reflector" light, but it was out of stock in the US.

2. The $90-$100 surcharge for buying a veg and flower light put me off. These are standard spectrums. They shouldn't require custom assembly.

This gets back to my quandary about efficiency. I get the feeling it's more efficient (labor and materials) to just fill a light with full-spectrum bulbs and throw more energy at the plant so it gets whatever it needs at whatever stage of life it's in.

Again, I can see the value of that. But, for me, I may want to get a taste of what I believe to be more conservative, energy efficient, veg-/flower-specific lighting.

So, paying almost triple to get veg and flower together seemed excessive to me. I could understand double the price. But, those punitive surcharges (for what are standard spectrums) gave me pause.

I'll get some experience with the Blackstars and decide whether to go higher wattage. If I get a Mars, I can get a flower spectrum and continue to use my T5 lights for veg. My T5s work fine for veg, but I feel they're lacking for flower. I can also keep the tent open during veg if I have any heat issues. It's during flower when it really needs to be sealed up (and lower-heat LEDs would give me a bit more leeway).

It's an interesting topic. Whether investing in engineered lens/reflector design is better than larger lights. I wish this stuff was rated in terms of PAR values so we could make comparisons like this.
 
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