speaking of kittens, my kitten is now 19+ years old. Good old kitty, never was one to jump up on the counters or tables. She likes to scratch on stuff, but if we get after her, she won't do it again. She's arthritic, but we make her keep moving and we keep her weight down. We keep thinking that she won't make it through another winter, but she's a trooper. Her mother lived to be over 20 years old, too. She's an odd eyed white, and a cfa champ. Gonna be hell when we need to say goodbye.