Me too! but a budget is a budget, also the reflector series look like they're great to start with.
Not that i wouldn't buy Mars2 or pro epistar the second i had the chance!
Well @orrganic I would recommend the mars ii over the reflector series personally, I did have the smallest reflector that mars do at 50*3w (real output of 85w) and the light done ok for the top buds but not so good on the lower buds, the mars ii 400w (80*5w, real wattage about 180w) has much better penetration and has increased yields greatly.
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