Organics - Trendy or life style .

[hecno]

Guys I mean no disrespect here , but I am getting Pm's from people asking for advice , The underlining theme is if I use this brand of soil and these nutrients would it be ok . The way way I see it is they want short cuts , without knowing how things work . To me I believe they are doing it to be trendy , I explain to them it starts at the soil , understand soil is step number 1 , understanding nutrients is step number 2 , understanding how a plant grows is step 3 . -- Step 4 -- after many stuff ups things start to come together , as it did for me .I have said to them I am more than willing to help them along the way but most I don't hear from them again . Now this is a big one for me , -- Listen to what you have been told -- There is no short cuts -- I believe there is no better joy than sharing home grow organic weed with mates , I may be way off the mark , so I want to hear what you guys think .

 

[hairyman]

But I would say there are levels of being organic ,, from someone who buys soil and nutes that are certified organic then that's stage 1 and then right through to someone who composts and builds there soils with material sourced from nature and prepares feeds and tea in the same manner would be the ultimate organic grower

I myself would say I fall in between and would be happy to say that you henco are in the ultimate category , but we all have to deal with our own circumstances , so I wouldn't frown on the grower buying his organics .

 

[Jraven]

When I first came here, I thought of myself as an organic grower, we've always used organic materials for all the gardening. It's how we do everything. I'd stick some organic stuff together in a pot and put a plant in it, but the results were unimpressive. Then here I learned that the soil is a living thing itself...you nurture your soil and when it's time to grow a plant the soil is incidentally ready with what the plant needs.
It does take some commitment for sure.

 

[Jraven]

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But I would say there are levels of being organic ,, from someone who buys soil and nutes that are certified organic then that's stage 1 and then right through to someone who composts and builds there soils with material sourced from nature and prepares feeds and tea in the same manner would be the ultimate organic grower

I myself would say I fall in between and would be happy to say that you henco are in the ultimate category , but we all have to deal with our own circumstances , so I wouldn't frown on the grower buying his organics .

Also I've learned that there are lots of ways to grow a plant lol...everybody has find their comfort zone
These days there are some excellent organic soils and ingredients available at least in this part of the world

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I'd say that "growin' organic" is not a trend but it is trendy. The trendy part is just a marketing niche that has some people convinced that organic is the best way to grow and that their product is the way to go in order to achieve the best results. Since these companies all claim to be the best on some level, it confuses the beginners/new comers and they end up on forums asking if this soil is better than this soil or this fertilizer is better than this one or if this booster will work with that (insert brand here) nutrient line. This marketing keeps the beginner confused enough to think that every solution is in a bottle or a bag when in fact the basis of all solutions is knowledge.

Now, I would say that it is not that bad because, in the end, I see all this trendy thingy as a means to an end. Going organic is, imho, the way to go because it is, if done properly, a much healthier way to grow. Healthier for us, the plants and the environment, so, if 1000 new growers join the "trend" because it is trendy and in the end 100 stick to it and learn about micro biome, food chain interactions, plant structure and life cycles, hormones, ions, osmosis etc and spread their knowledge and the love for organic growing, it is all good.

I came to organic growing after years of coco growing because I was fed up with polluting the water with my run offs and I just wanted to quit using salts all together because I learned about the micro biome in the soil and understood its importance. Yet, I use organic bottled nutrients and bagged soil simply because it is my very best option where I live (I know, it' sad) but, in time, I will have my own compost bin and I will be able to just build my grows from the ground up because I keep educating myself.

I would finish by saying that there are no "bad questions" really, just not enough knowledge to ask the "right questions" and, since knowledge is spread through communication, asking any question is a good start. A good answer to a bad question can help people acquire the necessary knowledge in order to start asking the right questions.

 

[MickJ]

I do a hybrid, recycling and rejuvenating my soil. I grow in small pots so have to add nutes but I keep it mostly organic.
I would find it frustrating if people asked me for shortcuts and quick fixes all the time. Part of the growing journey is learning, making mistakes and learn from them. I advise people to read your threads or eyes on fire.
I don't get people wanting to spend $1k on a setup and just add water. You may as well just buy the bud and save your money and frustration.

Sent from my comfy chair

 

[PlantRoom]

Growing organic can't be a trend, it's what we've been doing for thousands of years (albeit without knowing the science behind it all). I would say that knowing the science behind growing organically is on-trend and that growing organic produce is a life-style. The unfortunate existing trend is non-organic as has been accelerated post-WW2, meeting demands of growing populations has necessitated the need to find ways to grow faster and bigger, but at the cost of flavour, nutrients and the environment.

You only have to scratch the surface of organic growing to understand how it can be achieved. As an example I was reading how human urine (urea in commercial compost), rich in Nitrogen and also containing PK is being used in African food grow-ops as a fertiliser source. The land out there has been trashed by expensive synthetic ferts, so free human urine is the answer. Dilute it at 9 parts water to 1 part urine and use it on your own garden.

Try and fail, try and try again until you can do it for almost free (I'm working on it).

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Well @hecno welcome to my world broseph.LOL FUN aint it?!LOL loads want a quick quide to store bought organics all day long. dont wok that way.Most ALL organics today are thought of as organic when just because they have the inexpensive stamp saying its organic people are instantly sold.whereas, I would not use any.if any it would be VERY little used. Soil is food for plants. that simple.feed the soil and the flowers will follow.simple.dont feed the root system with bottled feeds.Kinda hard aint it when it one after another saying cheap ferts and so on. The easiest way is tell them to buy a KIS pack or similar.and mix the soil and cook that.THEN,we can move on to potting up a few pots and soaking beans.Now we got something to talk about since there is ZERO easy answers for your soil unless you wanna buy LOTS of stuff and mix from literally the ground up which is more tough than making a KIS batch or Coots batch for that matter.

Most want the trouble free grow for cheap and doing nothing.I see it or saw it ALL the time. which I agree with y'all.if thats what ya gotta do,DO IT.but remember not having a fully equal mix or tailored mix is probably going to have more trouble than less trouble because of the buffering capacity and PH stabilization within these trusted mixes. thats what they want for nothing I find.BUT,thats a hard nut to crack when they are certain they wanna spend 20 bucks or so n thats all.Makes it next to impossible when you want it fast and are not willing to let it cook or anything.I am glad it is you and not me now. Love ya bro!!

 

[DTOM420]

Most people are looking for an easy, or easiER, way to do things; and growing isn’t exempt from that. Some enjoy a challenge and some don’t. Nothing wrong with those who don’t prefer a challenge but they will have trouble delving into the deep end of the organic pool. Still, there are ‘simple’ organic methods for those wanting to get their toes wet. Something like a complete ‘water only’ organic soil from BuildASoil or KIS Organics in a SIPS/AutoPot/or Blumat setup and a organic bottled nute like BioBizz for a deficiency.

Is it a trend? To a degree, I think but it’s not as much the growing style that’s the trend as the better medicinal or connoisseur product it produces, IMO. I think people are actually realizing that the quality of the smoke from organic soil is superior to that of any other method. Certainly in terms of flavor and the lack of contaminants to the flower. I know that’s what attracted me.

I can see where repetitive questions or those seeking easy ways out can annoy someone with tons of knowledge who swims in the deep end, without water wings; but, keep in mind, some folks gotta get their feet wet before they’re willing to fully commit. The mor folks that get some help, the more that will try organics. The more people that try organics, the more that will stick with it and may end up deep in the rabbit hole.

It sure can become a ‘lifestyle’ once you dive into the rabbit hole, though. That’s for sure!

 

[Alasgun]

I moved into full on organic early on. Sorta! Starting with General Organics nutes i branched out by simply including blackstrap mollasses, then learned how to make compost tea which was huge due to all the variety that can go into a tea. Before long i noticed the plants were doing a lot better than with nutes alone.

Now days ive got a great soil recipe and two tea machines, make my own compost, raise my own worms, make lactobacillus serum, and the list goes on and on. Done right you can have very high quality and a good yield!

I once read, " using nutes out of bottles is like being hooked up to an i.v. You can maintain life but you'll not prosper because you've elimenated the breakdown process". Nute corporations can provide everything except this one aspect, which i consider very valuable.

It wasn't simpler but its hugely gratifying.