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[MephistoTransisto]

Please understand, that some of the issues with the plant you’re upset about were possibly grower induced. Pushing dli that high will cause issues. High temperatures also.

When the plant leaves are straight up, or twisting… she’s trying to limit leaf exposure to the over abundance of light.

I’m sure you have a reason you’ve got the light turned up so high…. But it’s overkill. While some strains will tolerate it, others won’t.

They didn’t love it. They survived. They sucked all the water up to increase transpiration so they wouldn’t overheat…

different strains develop at different rates. Some take their time building structure before exploding with growth.


Totally would have produced a good amount of smoke….



People hate autos because they take more finesse and skill to grow. They don’t like the abuse photos will take.

We see lots of new growers struggling with autos because they want to “push the genetics to see what they are capable of”… it’s a sure way to run into problems. Back it down a bit…. The increased dli and co2 etc won’t give you better results unless things are absolutely perfect throughout, and then it’s not guaranteed. Lotsa folks here grow dank weed, without the overuse of electricity (light) or co2. It’s about providing a stable, happy environment so the plant can flourish to its potential.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. Youre right, the strawberry gorilla going wonky was caused by me, but still their genetics are not as stable as Mephisto and our prone to more issues. they breed to F3 where mephisto breeds to at least F5.

This next grow, I’m not gonna push things crazy hard. Because you’re absolutely right there’s plenty of people that are growing great stuff and they’re not pushing things like I am. I cause problems when I push things too far and I’m not really experienced enough to be pushing things as far as I have been.

I’m gonna run normal nutrient EC, I’ll keep the lighting within instructional bounds.

Ill have to check out night owl. I think I looked at them before and they had a fairly small selection? Unique genetics though. I would try them . I’ll keep an eye on there stocks maybe they’ll breed something that catches my eye.

 

[Frankthetank]

think I looked at them before and they had a fairly small selection?

Yeah, it’s a small operation… but worth checking out.

Also I always recommend this…

jeanosgenetics.com

Michigan's top auto-flowering and photoperiod genetics

www.jeanosgenetics.com

Smaller boutique breeder, and is active onsite if you have questions. Everybody really loves the terps of Rootbeer Float… and she’s usually a big yielder.


Sounds like you’ve got a good plan together, my friend. Feel free to tag me anytime with questions…. or stop by Live Stoners to ask questions in real time to the community.

 

[MephistoTransisto]

I like what Grok told me - "Always prioritize plant health—over-stressing can backfire with lower yields or herming. Genetics remain the ceiling, but these tweaks help plants hit it."


My new mindset going into the next grow (probably grape crinkle), will be that genetics are my ceiling. So instead of trying to push the plants every way possible, i'm going to focus on giving them what they need.

 

[Frankthetank]

mephisto breeds to at least F5.

Btw…. You’ll find some Mephisto strains are f1’s, f3’s…etc.

 

[MephistoTransisto]

My new minset

Btw…. You’ll find some Mephisto strains are f1’s, f3’s…etc.

Really? woulds those be crosses of their stable strains?

Question - im tempted to try some drought stress... I should probably skip it huh? or is that a safe play

 

[Frankthetank]

Question - im tempted to try some drought stress... I should probably skip it huh?

I say skip it. Just do a couple grows to get the basics down…before you try advanced techniques.

By the way…nobody does anything like drought stressing, or anything drastic like that. You’re venturing into the realm of bro science with things like that.

The most people really do are things like topping, supercropping, schwazzing…. And varying levels of selective defoliation. You’ll get away with those….

I can tell you’re doing research….which is good. I’ll warn you to be selective of your sources. You’ll find the best information on autoflowers, specifically, right here. That’s not to say there isn’t good information in other places…but you’ll run into bad information occasionally.

Really? woulds those be crosses of their stable strains

Sometimes. Sometimes they seem to just pollen chuck and put out untested or lightly tested f1’s… Although there’s magic to be had in all filial generations. F1’s are known to be very vigorous, for example. Breeders like f3’s for pheno hunts…. Etc. And sometimes the higher generations, lose the original magic. There’s loads of strains that have drifted and become something different than their originals..

Lemme ask you this…what is your goal here? High yields? Highest quality weed? Etc…

 

[MephistoTransisto]

I say skip it. Just do a couple grows to get the basics down…before you try advanced techniques.

By the way…nobody does anything like drought stressing, or anything drastic like that. You’re venturing into the realm of bro science with things like that.

The most people really do are things like topping, supercropping, schwazzing…. And varying levels of selective defoliation. You’ll get away with those….

I can tell you’re doing research….which is good. I’ll warn you to be selective of your sources. You’ll find the best information on autoflowers, specifically, right here. That’s not to say there isn’t good information in other places…but you’ll run into bad information occasionally.



Sometimes. Sometimes they seem to just pollen chuck and put out untested or lightly tested f1’s… Although there’s magic to be had in all filial generations. F1’s are known to be very vigorous, for example. Breeders like f3’s for pheno hunts…. Etc. And sometimes the higher generations, lose the original magic. There’s loads of strains that have drifted and become something different than their originals..

Lemme ask you this…what is your goal here? High yields? Highest quality weed? Etc…

I will take your advice regarding drought stress; however, it’s not bro science -

https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/11/6/646

There’s a number of other studies that have been done too that actually show increased trichrome production, and I believe they tested total THC to an increased THC percentage as well

I say skip it. Just do a couple grows to get the basics down…before you try advanced techniques.

By the way…nobody does anything like drought stressing, or anything drastic like that. You’re venturing into the realm of bro science with things like that.

The most people really do are things like topping, supercropping, schwazzing…. And varying levels of selective defoliation. You’ll get away with those….

I can tell you’re doing research….which is good. I’ll warn you to be selective of your sources. You’ll find the best information on autoflowers, specifically, right here. That’s not to say there isn’t good information in other places…but you’ll run into bad information occasionally.



Sometimes. Sometimes they seem to just pollen chuck and put out untested or lightly tested f1’s… Although there’s magic to be had in all filial generations. F1’s are known to be very vigorous, for example. Breeders like f3’s for pheno hunts…. Etc. And sometimes the higher generations, lose the original magic. There’s loads of strains that have drifted and become something different than their originals..

Lemme ask you this…what is your goal here? High yields? Highest quality weed? Etc…

my primary goal is potency, second to that would be the total yield.

 

[Frankthetank]

will take your advice regarding drought stress; however, it’s not bro science -

Keep in mind….you’re growing autoflowers. They’re a different beast than those being tested. They’re finicky, easy to stunt, or induce problems, that the plant won’t have the time to recover from.

Remember, the clock is ticking with autos. Some finish in as little as 50 days. That’s the reason you want to just provide an easy, stable environment.

Also…. Drying the soil excessively will cause any microbial life in your soil to die off.

….and that study does say you’ll experience diminished yields, and it’s not like the cannabinoid levels will increase in any drastic sense. An extra % doesn’t seem worth the wasted time of a yield you’re not happy with.
But, that’s just like, my opinion….

 

[Frankthetank]

Also, I was going to mention…. Gnome Automatics Anvil is F9…., since you’re looking for high filial generation strains.

 

[MephistoTransisto]

Also, I was going to mention…. Gnome Automatics Anvil is F9…., since you’re looking for high filial generation strains.

It’s not that I care about filial generations, I was just upset that that plant ended up with flowers the way it did. I know I triggered that by my mistake, but I just wonder if the genetics were more stable if I would’ve had that same problem. But now that I’m spilling it out for myself, it’s probably the strength of the genetics and not the stability that determines how easily it flunks.