Live Stoner Chat What would you do

Government, big pharma, big tobacco.... $$$.... buy in, standardize, reduce suppliers and make private growing illegal.... they'll need to "keep us safe" from chemicals and pesticides.

Those willing to give up freedom for security...

Deserve neither.
 
I just heard a radio add that says "Government and private liquor stores have the best record of not selling to minors. We are already set up to sell safely." etc

I am pissed. Really pissed. Big money builds factory style farms that produce "standardized" pot. People wanting advice will be asking clerks who don't know and might not even care.

Really nice people with decades of expertise will close down. People who test everything and have always turned minors away. A network of dedicated growers who care about the plant will be driven underground. People will no longer have a reliable source of information.

This has to be stopped!

personally I think it can't really be stopped.
weed will become a legal market like all other. and current illegal growers simply aren't efficient enough to make it in such a market. it works currently because there are high margins due to illegality, but once the legal market matures there will be more and more competition, efficiency and keeping costs down will matter more, and margins go way down.

I also expect indoor will mostly disappear. the reason indoor is so common now is that you can easily hide it out of sight, but I expect indoorgrowing to mostly move into greenhouses once there's no reason to hide anymore. pretty big waste of money to keep supplying all light artificially and pay high electric bills, while there's a big free light in the sky.

and yes, we'll probably get brands of standardised weed too. that's were demand lies. so many stoners barely care what they smoke, as long as it looks ok and gets them high. people like us, reading/talking online about weed and caring about different kinds of highs etc, are a minority I think.
so it's only logical big weedbrands will take over, if they can supply a decent quality at a sharp price.

still, I don't think everything is going to be that market. there are always going to be people interesting in specific smells or highs, people who are willing to spend a little more on something that doesn't just get them high, but is a superior product overall. but it's a niche. like craft beer. no way a small craft brewery is going to compete on price with a big international brewery, but if they supply quality, there is still a market.

and it could even be better that way. there is already so much variation in weed, but what I find commercially available at a coffeeshop is all very similar.
I feel like for the coffeeshops, it wouldn't change that much if supply came from a few big standard brands.
there are a few excellent coffeeshops with a big variable menu, but the average coffeeshop here just has some standard names(amnesia, white widdow, powerplant, etc), which are probably bullshit too since they're never the same if you get it from another coffeeshop.
so not much to lose there, big brands are only helping that by finally insuring you know what you get if you're in another city where you never bought before.

however, (full) legalisation is also going to make it much easier acquiring new genetics, and the people growing for the craft-weed market will have to distinguish themselves more with something unique, so I think that will lead to way more unique and interesting weed being widely available, instead of the same smells and highs everywhere like now.
 
I agree with you on principal .. knowledge should be free for if it doesnt spread, it can vanish ..., but, no one feeds the inventor for free.. so why choose this OR that .. this AND that is better :) .. I would patent it, sell it off to some big cannabis corp for a very healthy life long royalty .. purchase myself a yacht .. and grow deck full o weed touring the ocean high ! :D

The problem is the information patents...once you sell your techniques, you are often bound to not be allowed to post the information anywhere else. In a case like this is truly is this OR that. I would rather help the entire world with knowledge, than better myself in a monetary way. The day i start to only sell my info to only exclusive folks with money, is the day i consider myself a sell-out.
 
I just heard a radio add that says "Government and private liquor stores have the best record of not selling to minors. We are already set up to sell safely." etc

I am pissed. Really pissed. Big money builds factory style farms that produce "standardized" pot. People wanting advice will be asking clerks who don't know and might not even care.

Really nice people with decades of expertise will close down. People who test everything and have always turned minors away. A network of dedicated growers who care about the plant will be driven underground. People will no longer have a reliable source of information.

This has to be stopped!

I am too bud...our gov is taking full control of rec weed and its a greed fest full of corruption and lies....set up for a very select few(government tied, pharma and hollywood stars) to make a kings ransom off of cannabis in our country. My idea of good pot isnt plants grown in a factory. They say the highest educated are the best equipped to grow this weed commercially, and I call bullshit. Ive smoked many of this supposed "best medical weed in the world" and somehow shit i grow in the field has more character and is every bit as potents as their $15 a gram factory grown pot.
 
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Due to safety issues "we" (your overlords) have deemed growing cannabis privately is a "dangerous" pastime and we must protect you the public....from yourselves...while making ourselves rich in the process.

compliance thru intimidation is called extortion.


VIVE LIBERTE!
 
I would tell everyone on afn first so others could try it also. I'm all about helping fellow green thumbs because I need help from time to time. I probably would try it myself first to make sure it works like I said so I don't make myself look dumb by giving bad advice. So what is this ancient Chinese secret lol jk I know you said hypothetical lol.
 
Two types of people are connected with weed.
Those that love the plant, and want it spread freely for the benifit of all.
Then there are those who are in the community for a different kind of green.
I am a deplorable stoner, if I can spare it, it's yours.

The second type needs to be driven from our midst.

Nothing wrong with making a living, but I've been in the community for 35 yrs, mostly underground. Make it a felony I'll still be here. Now all I see is rich pussy punks, jumping in to get as much cash out of canna as they can, now that it's "legal". They wernt willing to be here in the dark times then fuck them.
man I totally agree with you brother. I haven't been on the scene for 35 years but I have been for 20 years. And alot has changed. One good thing about young punks are all the advancements that have been made in the last 20 years.
 
man I totally agree with you brother. I haven't been on the scene for 35 years but I have been for 20 years. And alot has changed. One good thing about young punks are all the advancements that have been made in the last 20 years.
It's not really the young punks, it's the ones that haven't spent the time providing for the community, our community, now want to dash in for the cash cause it's "legal". They're not here because they love weed... they're here to take advantage and make a buck off of us... I have no issue with a stoner making a living... but I ain't buyin from some dude who learned the difference between indica and sativa, so he could open a shop.



Back in my day we called them yuppie scum.
 
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