Yup! She's sick!

[Santorini]

Hey what's up guys; this is an auto portal on day 55 from seed. Yesterday I noticed a few (2) brown spots on her top leaves, today she went nuts and it's spreading like wild fire.

I'm thinking it could be a phosphorus issue?

Setup:
330W GoGrow LED (16" Inches from canopy)
3 gallon smart pot
Happy Frog on top
Kind Soil on bottom

80F /42RH

I have only been giving mammoth P, calmag and molasses this grow. Three other plants got the same feeding and are all doing fine except the portal.

Last watering with supplements / nutrients was Dec 29th. She needs watered later today upon waking up. I was going to give a little more mammoth P, although im not sure if this is phosphorus or Cal-Mag issue?

She got .5ml Mammoth P, .5 cal mag, 1/2 teaspoon molasses and drank 64oz

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[Discretepete2676]

Hey what's up guys; this is an auto portal on day 55 from seed. Yesterday I noticed a few (2) brown spots on her top leaves, today she went nuts and it's spreading like wild fire.

I'm thinking it could be a phosphorus issue?

Setup:
3 gallon smart pot
Happy Frog on top
Kind Soil on bottom

80F /42RH

I have only been giving mammoth P, calmag and molasses this grow. Three other plants got the same feeding and are all doing fine except the portal.

Last watering with suppliments / nutrients was Dec 29th,

She got .5ml Mammoth P, .5 cal mag, 1/2 teaspoon molasses and drank 64oz


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Can you get some pics up for us? @Eyes on Fire could you help by chance with some pics and the info given?

 

[Santorini]

Can you get some pics up for us? @Eyes on Fire could you help by chance with some pics and the info given?

Hey @Discretepete2676 yup sorry was using tapatalk and it wouldn't upload so had to run to the mac..

Here's some pics the first 3 are from yesterday, the last 2 are from today. I took one in the light (so you can see all the spots) and one without the light (which doesnt look nearly as bad as how it really looks)

Yesterday


Today:

 

[Eyes on Fire]

is the spotting staying spotty or spotted? or is is more of a slow sheeting effect moving to a more yellowing of the leaves? if its an over all yellowing now,thats uber common, the spots could be from one or two things from all I have seen. Possible slow and slight PH swings and the combination of no flower foods really and the and KS may be a touch too hot for flower.. maybe. especially with the Mammoth P,that will let the flower food available get soluble far faster,so be cautious using it early in a grow with Kind Soil. but I would brew a EWC tea personally with some mycos and a solid topping of fresh soil with so,some bloom foods. but me personally I really am not a big fan of KS anylonger. until they get their quality control under control and can have me or others always do the same exact grow with same materials provided? Im not going to be using them since their quality control has been out the window these past months. flowers are doing nicely so maybe they added more..? dunno but thats what I have seen. ripper might be the one to ask. I personally HATE KS . LOL will never touch it again as long as I grow or until he swear to me he has re done the flower aspect.

 

[Santorini]

is the spotting staying spotty or spotted? or is is more of a slow sheeting effect moving to a more yellowing of the leaves? if its an over all yellowing now,thats uber common, the spots could be from one or two things from all I have seen. Possible slow and slight PH swings and the combination of no flower foods really and the and KS may be a touch too hot for flower.. maybe. especially with the Mammoth P,that will let the flower food available get soluble far faster,so be cautious using it early in a grow with Kind Soil. but I would brew a EWC tea personally with some mycos and a solid topping of fresh soil with so,some bloom foods. but me personally I really am not a big fan of KS anylonger. until they get their quality control under control and can have me or others always do the same exact grow with same materials provided? Im not going to be using them since their quality control has been out the window these past months. flowers are doing nicely so maybe they added more..? dunno but thats what I have seen. ripper might be the one to ask. I personally HATE KS . LOL will never touch it again as long as I grow or until he swear to me he has re done the flower aspect.

Thank you guys so much for the quick response @Eyes on Fire @Discretepete2676 it is very much appreciated and thank you again. Im gonna tag you @Ripper did you by chance run into this issue?

is the spotting staying spotty or spotted?

Yes

Is it more of a slow sheeting effect moving to a more yellowing of the leaves?

Kinda, Its spotty and the tips of the leaves are starting to turn brown, curl, get those spots and finally start eating its way into the leaf. It is throughout the entire plant, I first noticed it on the top cola leaves yesterday. I would say it spread 20% more since I went to sleep and woke up. So not really yellow, more brown leaves with a few yellow/brown spots at this point in time. So they may start to turn yellow by tomorrow :-X

I would brew a EWC tea personally with some mycos and a solid topping of fresh soil with so,some bloom foods..

About the tea, I'll have to try to find a place to grab some and an airstone? (thats all I pretty much know right now haha) I will read up on the EWC tea today. I keep seeing this yet haven't had the time to read up on what I need to get for it all.

I wish I had a hydrostore close although I don't. It's about 1.5 hours away. I also do not have mycos, although I will order some now as I've seen them used A LOT in videos and in journals.

The only thing I have now is some Happy Frog soil and some lite baccto soil (although it has time release ferts in it)-> Baccto LINK

I may go buy some other soil if these / more happy frog wont work.

Sorry for all the questions and I want you to know I greatly appreciate your help and time today. Should I stop the with the mammoth P for this plant or up the mammoth P? I can stop on the younger ones now.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

sorry for the questions?LMFAO!! brother?!, thats why we're here mate

well sounds ;like its the latter of the two I mentioned.well,imho at any rate.

so its browned and curled or dried and died essentially.so thats a PH and feeding issue there. HOT soil and a PH swing. I bet its in slight part due to the KS but typically Fox Farm does NOT have a solid product generally speaking thats why we have a thread for it to warn people about this.

they have had swinging PH issues off and on for many years now. so that would also not suprise me bro. OF and Happy frog have had issue. OF more so but they have the same company and pull from the same areas.

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/beware-of-fox-farms-ocean-forest-soil.34044/

 

[Eyes on Fire]

OH lol and the EWC tea is stupid easy man. go buy an opaque/clear'ish container -1 gallon or 2.. a small bag of wiggle worms of similar. ya got molasses-of course i like black strap but any un sulfured is best as we all know. then hit it with some higher end mycos and then for flower if you could get one or two items that would help.ALSO store it well and it'll hold for a year or two EASY! but get some alfafa and kelp meal. and the other is some decent bllom granules like flower girl from Dr earth or similar and let that blend in a gallon of soil for a handful of days then top coat your plant with it if it mellows some. them hot soils with higher N content and will tend to give issue like this for awhile..hiopefully not all the way through. hopefully it chills out, THEN top coat it. until then.. a gallon jug.. air pump and stone or two. tubing,EWC,Mycos and some molasses. 1/2 EWC in a cheese cloth pouch(NOT a nylon) tied and hung above the bubbles as best you can and brew from 12-20 hours or so and feed. easy! then add a TBS of molasses and a teaspoon or two of the mycos. once when stating up the tea, then another teaspoon or so around half way through brewing and then split with a little cal mag(roughly 5-8 drops if needed) and another cpl cups of water only no PH'ing and hit em. mellow enough and also enough to help build a little something. but if PH is the issue it may not help broseph. but we;ll see. got lime? LOL got lime?!LOL some sweet or dolomite lime powder and/or garden lime or pellet/prilled lime is also good. both are cheap and easy to get usually.

 

[Santorini]

@Eyes on Fire thank you so much for the time you spent typing that all out and explaining the process. Looks like I need to go shopping real quick and pick up some things! :smoking:

I took notes, wrote everything down, now off to the store and I will report back after I get everything going and see how she takes it.

Once again thank you for your time today, Im very grateful for you and the entire kick ass community! Im sure this will help and now I can get into brewing some DANK tea, hopefully I'll figure out how she likes it and make it really special the next times

Here's a nug of some Mephisto Auto Blues for ya to smoke down on. Just be very careful! She's a creeper and turns you into a got damn elephant! I ate so much food the other night I should have exploded. I've had to of gained 5lbs since I've started smoking it past 2 weeks. Can't wait until this portal gets to the nug in hand stage!

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah it'll help to tamp the process or slow it down and even helf the flowering stage. but shes far enough along you just need to stall it if you can. but if you planning on using the KS again these things will be awesome to have on hand man. promise!! and even of your not using it again bro, thay'll be fine to use in your soils as you grow so its a zero loss. have a good one man and thanks for the smoke a tinc and a bowl i smoked last eveing but again a lil bit ago LOL

Skystomper from Mephisto and a tinc.. very potent too. see all the blackness bouncing about?! lol straight hash floating about

 

[Waira]

Santorini,.... EoF- ...

.... Oh look, it's ANOTHER KS plant with P defc, issues! Sorry to say bud, but EoF has called it fair-- KS has been rife with issues these days,.. I myself had P defc. issues with my outdoor photo's plants, and I've seen many others with similar issues,... Also as EoF mentioned, Fuxfarms soils have been really dicey for quality as well, very hit and miss-- mostly miss! badly acidic and undercooked are the common issues we see, I'm talking pH in the low 5's in the bag! Maybe you got a good one, but if you haven't been monitoring your pH in-pot, you need to! nothing is automatics or for sure bullet proof self adjusting about this type soil/set-up, orngainc or not,... get an Accurate 8 soil pH probe, since doing the run-off method for pH estimation is not recommended for this style grow, and it's a pian in the ass that's ofetn poorly accurate as well,... there is an improved method and calculation here at the Infirmary, as a sticky article,...
what's the water source and pH/ppm? Ca and P defc. can share similar symptoms, and certainly can occur at the same time,..co-defc.'s often muddy the diagnostic waters, but from what i see this is mostly if not entirely P defc. starting, likely a simple lack-of type, not an off-pH lockout issue,... You need right-now fast P inputs, do I suggest liquid organic nutes (EoF will have some suggestions as well for sure!)... GO BioBloom, Roots Organic HPK are good ones,... or if you're flexible, even some mild dose synthetics high PK booster will do in this pinch, until you can get this quashed and go back to organics,.. some limited use of synthetics won't mess with the soil herd much at all, so long as you keep pH'ing your inputs,.. I did this with my girls, fast uptake mild dose synthetic booster, then once symtpom progression stopped, back to mostly organics (I had to continue with some synth. to keep pace with the larger, pot cramped plants by necessity)... Mammoth P is the shizzle! That helped with the P defc. issue a great deal, those specific 'crobes work wonders with P cycling and availability,... ... So, pending info on your water and pH'ing, I'd get more P in there ASAP, and maybe up the Ca-Mg dosing especially if you've been using low ppm water with minimal CaCO3 content,... And follow EoF's cooking lessons too- ...... nice Blues nugg' mate!

EoF brudda, you kill me again with the nugg' porn! :drool: oh gawd, is that the Skyrone Stomper you mean? Gorgeous! That Tinc looks good and greasy too man, is it an alcohol one? ...thank you for helping too my friend, much obliged!