Extraction Decarbing before making cannaoil?

[bubblekarma]

I'm wanting to make some cooking cannaoil for various desserts (one dessert will be baked, the other is a milkshake blend using oil and peanut butter), but have a question. I understand that for edibles the herb needs to be decarbed. I plan on making my oil in a slow cooker on low - which is about 200*F and simmering it for 8 hrs. Shouldn't this process already decarb the THCA? Many recipes I've seen say to decarb before making the oil, which seems redundant to me - if THCA is converted simply by adding heat, technically I should be decarbing while making the oil. Am I correct, or should I actually perform a decarb step before stating the oil infusion?

 

[Waximus]

Hi, BK I run my oil (coconut usually, I've done olive oil once-same results) for 6 hrs in a small crock, on low. And, I always decarb my herb before adding it to the oil. I've had great results with putting the herb on a cookie sheet, oven at 200-250(max) for 30 minutes. The few brain cells in me that quote chemistry (they're in the back bar with the supposedly cannabis wounded ones...Ha!) say that the cannabinoids-THC/CBD, etc, once in the oil, are being bound chemically to the oil, and that must not allow for the same level of decarbing that the oven method provides. I know that I've made an oil run without decarbing, and it seemed significantly "weaker" than a decarbed run- same base material, too.
What kind of oil are you planning to use?
Enjoy!
:Sharing One:

 

[bubblekarma]

Thanks for the info Waxi!! Guess I better make an extra step of decarbing separately. Glad to find someone else who uses a slow cooker. Should I plan on closer to 6 hours on low (instead of 8?) I'll be using vegetable oil. I haven't decided if I'm going to use my generic and simply called "vegetable oil" that I already have, or buy some Olive Oil specifically for cannabis infusion. (I'll prob go with the olive oil).

 

[Waximus]

Anything over 6 hours is overkill, methinks, Brother My crock runs 190-195deg on Low, and I've not noticed any potency difference since using 6 hrs vs 8
If you can get your hands on coconut oil, it is the best oil for infusion, imo. You can eat a spoon of it by itself, and its just good for your being
Glad to help, Dude!

 

[pop22]

I'm wanting to make some cooking cannaoil for various desserts (one dessert will be baked, the other is a milkshake blend using oil and peanut butter), but have a question. I understand that for edibles the herb needs to be decarbed. I plan on making my oil in a slow cooker on low - which is about 200*F and simmering it for 8 hrs. Shouldn't this process already decarb the THCA? Many recipes I've seen say to decarb before making the oil, which seems redundant to me - if THCA is converted simply by adding heat, technically I should be decarbing while making the oil. Am I correct, or should I actually perform a decarb step before stating the oil infusion?

At 200F it will take about 9 hours to decarb your bud. And unless you have a slow cooker with digital heat controls, there is NO temp control in a standard slow cooker. the difference between warm and high is only how long it takes to get to temp! Another way to cook oil is in a double boiler. you can, with practice get accurate control of the temps in the upper boiler. I use a candy thermometer to monitor my temps. I decarb on the oven then cook at 195F for 4 hours. Another thing is, if your using medium-low quality trim, you can strain the oil then cook another batch of trim in the same oil.

 

[bubblekarma]

At 200F it will take about 9 hours to decarb your bud. And unless you have a slow cooker with digital heat controls, there is NO temp control in a standard slow cooker. the difference between warm and high is only how long it takes to get to temp! Another way to cook oil is in a double boiler. you can, with practice get accurate control of the temps in the upper boiler. I use a candy thermometer to monitor my temps. I decarb on the oven then cook at 195F for 4 hours.

Thanks for the advise Pop! So what you're saying is that I can decarb in oil, it will just take longer to fully decarb that way?

About the temp on the slow cooker, yeah I agree. Perhaps I should have it on high for an hour to let it heat up and then turn it to low for another 8 to decarb? Or I could take 20 min and decarb in the oven 1st and then I don't have to leave it in the slow cooker for as long and just keep it on low. Am I on track here?

Another thing is, if your using medium-low quality trim, you can strain the oil then cook another batch of trim in the same oil.

DAMN! That would make some potent ass oil I would imagine!

 

[bubblekarma]

Anything over 6 hours is overkill, methinks, Brother My crock runs 190-195deg on Low, and I've not noticed any potency difference since using 6 hrs vs 8
If you can get your hands on coconut oil, it is the best oil for infusion, imo. You can eat a spoon of it by itself, and its just good for your being
Glad to help, Dude!

Yeah sweet man thanks again. My recipe for my baked dessert calls specifically for liquid vegetable oil, so I don't know if using a different type of vegetable oil would change the outcome of the dessert. It's a family recipe passed down and I don't really wanna mess up the flavor. But I might be throwing it out of whack adding weed to it anyways lol. IDK man is there a flavor difference between the different oils? Are some better to bake with than others? I'm not really much of a kitchen guy haha.

 

[jumper420]

I always decarb 220 at 45 mins double wrapped in aluminum foil. I make coconut oils though some people are allergic to it, olive oil, veg oil, butter only use high fat unsalted kerry gold, and thc sugar. 220°F for 45 mins decarb is perfect

 

[jumper420]

And yes each oil will have a diff taste more creamy to more oily

 

[wannagrowbuds]

Just decarb first for 30 mins at 122 deg C, then infuse into coconut oil on a double boiler for an hour. Adding lecithin makes a big positive difference too.