Finally did it

[Loud Pipes]

I've been pouring over this organic section for a while now and I have to say it's full of excellent info. I finally started my first organic grow using Pro Mix Ultimate and I amended it pretty much according to WG's sticky in the new growers section-I think that's where its at anyhow. On hand I have fish emulsion, liquid seaweed and high phos bat guano. I'm getting some worm casings today and I'm gonna put together a tea brewer. My first fictims are 2 DP Auto Blueberries and later on I'm gonna do a couple of Critical Jacks. The soil came out of the bag with a ph of 7 but after watering with 6.2 water it came down to 6.5. So far the plants look good but the rate of growth is slower than what i'm used to but I understand that can be expected with organics. Any how I'm havin fun. Whish me luck and keep the good info coming

 

[X]

I didn't know about that thread. I just checked it out and the amendments are not all organic... none of the miracle grow products are.

 

[Loud Pipes]

I didn't know about that thread. I just checked it out and the amendments are not all organic... none of the miracle grow products are.

I just used that thread as somewhat of a guide line. I'm not using any of the mg products. Maxicrop liquid seaweed and fish emulsion I really don't know about but I assumed it was organic and the Esoma Plant-tone I used claims to be "organic". When it comes to bloom I'm going substitute the bat guano in place of the mg he used. Any and all suggestions will be welcomed. Pipes

 

[X]

Any and all suggestions will be welcomed. Pipes

No disrespect brother, but it doesn't sound like you understand how self-made organic mixes work. I'm providing this link, not to blow you off, but to help you get the basics with very little effort. After checking that out, if you still have questions, we'll be happy to assist.

Link: https://www.autoflower.org/f89/tlo-dummies-dummy-17822.html

 

[wg]

Hey I'm honored for the use of the guide Pipes.

What testerx offers is a different organic - a living soil that's all organic that isn't controlled by what you feed it - but rather by the organisms that are living in your soil. These organisms take nutrients from composted material (guanos, kelps, rock phosphate, etc etc) and feast on them - they then feed them to the plant depending on it's needs. I'd definitely check out testerx's link and some other things here on the organics forum.. there's some great information and some great links.

Not to side track the topic, but .. What the guide I wrote does is gives you a cheap alternative to buying root drench products you use for soil-less mixes and farming a mini myco herd to build your roots in veg, but the mycos will suffer greatly as soon as you hit bloom. As the miracle gro fert won't kill them it will greatly inhibit them. As well, I need to get Epsom Salts in the guide as it's essential to feed during bloom.. I just did a test grow with the line up again (same mix) but tried some home made epsom salt/amino acid stuff (I'll get to this another day, but I've been trying to make fert additives from things you can buy from wal-mart, etc.). The plants stayed lush green much longer.

 

[X]

Not to side track the topic, but .. What the guide I wrote does is gives you a cheap alternative to buying root drench products you use for soil-less mixes and farming a mini myco herd to build your roots in veg, but the mycos will suffer greatly as soon as you hit bloom. As the miracle gro fert won't kill them it will greatly inhibit them. As well, I need to get Epsom Salts in the guide as it's essential to feed during bloom.

I was aware of why you did it and it fills a real need for some of us. It didn't sound to me like our friend, Loud, realized it was more about efficacy on a budget than it was about being an organic mix... Good to see you, bro.

 

[Loud Pipes]

Hey I'm honored for the use of the guide Pipes.

What testerx offers is a different organic - a living soil that's all organic that isn't controlled by what you feed it - but rather by the organisms that are living in your soil. These organisms take nutrients from composted material (guanos, kelps, rock phosphate, etc etc) and feast on them - they then feed them to the plant depending on it's needs. I'd definitely check out testerx's link and some other things here on the organics forum.. there's some great information and some great links.

Not to side track the topic, but .. What the guide I wrote does is gives you a cheap alternative to buying root drench products you use for soil-less mixes and farming a mini myco herd to build your roots in veg, but the mycos will suffer greatly as soon as you hit bloom. As the miracle gro fert won't kill them it will greatly inhibit them. As well, I need to get Epsom Salts in the guide as it's essential to feed during bloom.. I just did a test grow with the line up again (same mix) but tried some home made epsom salt/amino acid stuff (I'll get to this another day, but I've been trying to make fert additives from things you can buy from wal-mart, etc.). The plants stayed lush green much longer.

Thanks for the replies but as I have mentioned before I'm not using any of the mg products. The only additional products that I'm using are the Maxicrop fish emulsion and liquid seaweed, guanos, worm casings and molasses which I make into a tea. Apparently this doesn't cut the mustard for an organic grow but it's a lot closer to where I was at before. What I really want to do right now is to wean myself away from the synthetics/chemicals. Anyhow the first 2 plants are doing quite well. Pipes

 

[X]

Apparently this doesn't cut the mustard for an organic grow but it's a lot closer to where I was at before. What I really want to do right now is to wean myself away from the synthetics/chemicals. Anyhow the first 2 plants are doing quite well. Pipes

That's not exactly accurate, and, speaking for myself, it was never my intention to make you feel that way. We try to offer "best practices" advice... which simply means attempting to offer the best advice we feel will deliver optimum results, without having to face any nutritional issues during the grow.

If you don't use chemical amendments/suplements, you are organic... and, I do not recall your mentioning using any synthetics. Cannabis will grow without optimal conditions... the biggest issues I've seen have usually been pH related (if not using TLO) and/or overfeeding. Avoid those things, and you will likely still have an harvest, and very possibly a good one... even if your mix isn't "perfect".

 

[Loud Pipes]

That's not exactly accurate, and, speaking for myself, it was never my intention to make you feel that way. We try to offer "best practices" advice... which simply means attempting to offer the best advice we feel will deliver optimum results, without having to face any nutritional issues during the grow.

If you don't use chemical amendments/suplements, you are organic... and, I do not recall your mentioning using any synthetics. Cannabis will grow without optimal conditions... the biggest issues I've seen have usually been pH related (if not using TLO) and/or overfeeding. Avoid those things, and you will likely still have an harvest, and very possibly a good one... even if your mix isn't "perfect".

I honestly believe that tlo is in my future but probably some time next year. I've started composting about a month ago and will continue to do so and keep studying the tlo method. Pipes

 

[X]

I honestly believe that tlo is in my future but probably some time next year. I've started composting about a month ago and will continue to do so and keep studying the tlo method. Pipes

You're always welcome... how you grow has no bearing on that here, so long as you also respect the opinions of people who grow a different way.