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Ah man gutted you found more rot dude. It's a bloody mare. From what I understand it starts as the bud is forming early on, so starts rotting from the middle out. So you can't even stop it basically as if it's in there it's in there!! Not cool at all man.

24 light is the answer for me. Weirdly I don't think 24/0 has made any difference to the length of grow, as I was expecting it to shorten grow time. Reckon the extra hours in flowering helps pack on the weight, and humidity never spikes when it's dark.

Plants look awesome dude. Really good growing bro.


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I found a little bit in the MBAP,out of all the plants I’m growing,I expected to find some on her...huge dense buds man lol.ill be stripping the tent down and giving it a good wash with a light bleach solution when I’m done...hopefully that will get rid of any spores hanging around.
It’s an option to go 24/0...but I’m a big believer that the plants need a little snooze lol.plants are doing very well man,can’t really move them too much now,the branches are flopping everywhere lol :pass:
 
I found a little bit in the MBAP,out of all the plants I’m growing,I expected to find some on her...huge dense buds man lol.ill be stripping the tent down and giving it a good wash with a light bleach solution when I’m done...hopefully that will get rid of any spores hanging around.
It’s an option to go 24/0...but I’m a big believer that the plants need a little snooze lol.plants are doing very well man,can’t really move them too much now,the branches are flopping everywhere lol :pass:


The thing about autoflowering cannabis and light cycles, one of the easiest ways to increase your yield is to give them all the light they can in order to continue to grow even during the full flowering phase. Ok so here is the thing about 24/0 if you think about it, the reason that autoflowering cannabis actually autoflowers is due to its geographical location in relation to the equator. You see cannabis that grows in lower hemisphere has the benefit of gradually changing seasons and a gradual lowering of the light cycle. Plants that grow in the upper latitudes don't get that benefit, and literally go from 24 hours(ish, its actually closer to 22/2) to nothing. You see these plants get basically 24 hours of light for 90 days or so during the summer. So when people say that plants need to "sleep" I say nature doesn't do it so why should I mess with what mother nature has already perfected. They don't sleep in the wild therefore I do that lol.

All autos want to do is grow, and do as much growing as possible in the predetermined time frame that have to do it. It is the good ole Darwin's theory of natural selection, adaptations to environments and such.. That gives us the basic blueprint to use. It is up to us to try and find out all of the subtle growing conditions and variables growth varibles that exist in nature and not only duplicate them but also improve upon them. The best part about growing autos is the fact that the cells can continue to use the photons from the sun during flowering(lol duh Derek everyone knows that) to grow. If you think about it like this, every day if the lights are out for 4 hours per day, each week you lose a total of 28 hours of photosynthesis and each month you lose 112 hours or 4.6 days and for a whole growth cycle it is 9.2 days per growth cycle that you are robbing the plant of the ability to do what nature wanted, to grow as big and healthy as possible. So the next generation has a better chance of survival and so on. Me personally I know how much growth occurs in a 10 day period so I want to give them everything they want, which I believe is two main things, lots of lighting for 24 hours a day and AIR to the roots(anyone who knows me, knows my thoughts on air to the rootzone)

I know this sounds like I am rambling, but I do believe that having all of your growth variables maxed out is the way to grow(just my own personal feelings) And the lighting cycle is right at the top of that hierarchy of needs for the cannabis, along with o2 to the max. I hopepy G I didn't ramble too hard lol. Happy Growing my friend
 
Derek, you are wrong here. Happened to me this weeks... Plants looked droopy and sad. Because of too much photons.
There is a thing such as too much light and it is real.
So, run light 24/0 but adjust to proper DLI... or run at 19/5 at little higher intensity and the same DLI as you would at 24/0.
 
Derek, you are wrong here. Happened to me this weeks... Plants looked droopy and sad. Because of too much photons.
There is a thing such as too much light and it is real.
So, run light 24/0 but adjust to proper DLI... or run at 19/5 at little higher intensity and the same DLI as you would at 24/0.

Yes the intensity of the light can be too much, however not the duration, too many photons(as in their intensity) can totally fry em, however the length of time in which they are exposed will have 0 negative effects. As stated above, that is how nature does it..
 
Great post! DLI and VPD....

Derek, you are wrong here. Happened to me this weeks... Plants looked droopy and sad. Because of too much photons.
There is a thing such as too much light and it is real.
So, run light 24/0 but adjust to proper DLI... or run at 19/5 at little higher intensity and the same DLI as you would at 24/0.
 
Sure it can be that's why there is only 12 hours at the equator and 16 plus hours @ 51°N

Yes the intensity of the light can be too much, however not the duration, too many photons(as in their intensity) can totally fry em, however the length of time in which they are exposed will have 0 negative effects. As stated above, that is how nature does it..
 
Derek, you are wrong here. Happened to me this weeks... Plants looked droopy and sad. Because of too much photons.
There is a thing such as too much light and it is real.
So, run light 24/0 but adjust to proper DLI... or run at 19/5 at little higher intensity and the same DLI as you would at 24/0.

The thing I am getting at is basically plants do not photosynthesize at night when the lights are off. They do all their cell dividing (growing) during the day. When you turn the lights off that's it they just go into a more dormant state waiting for the lights to come back on. Definitely something to ponder if you are increasing the lights intensity can you reduce the time the lights are on.
 
Apparently mate that's not true. I know everyone says it, but I've read a few times that it's bollocks? Def don't think it's done my girls any harm? They've never slept, ever! Lol


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The thing about autoflowering cannabis and light cycles, one of the easiest ways to increase your yield is to give them all the light they can in order to continue to grow even during the full flowering phase. Ok so here is the thing about 24/0 if you think about it, the reason that autoflowering cannabis actually autoflowers is due to its geographical location in relation to the equator. You see cannabis that grows in lower hemisphere has the benefit of gradually changing seasons and a gradual lowering of the light cycle. Plants that grow in the upper latitudes don't get that benefit, and literally go from 24 hours(ish, its actually closer to 22/2) to nothing. You see these plants get basically 24 hours of light for 90 days or so during the summer. So when people say that plants need to "sleep" I say nature doesn't do it so why should I mess with what mother nature has already perfected. They don't sleep in the wild therefore I do that lol.

All autos want to do is grow, and do as much growing as possible in the predetermined time frame that have to do it. It is the good ole Darwin's theory of natural selection, adaptations to environments and such.. That gives us the basic blueprint to use. It is up to us to try and find out all of the subtle growing conditions and variables growth varibles that exist in nature and not only duplicate them but also improve upon them. The best part about growing autos is the fact that the cells can continue to use the photons from the sun during flowering(lol duh Derek everyone knows that) to grow. If you think about it like this, every day if the lights are out for 4 hours per day, each week you lose a total of 28 hours of photosynthesis and each month you lose 112 hours or 4.6 days and for a whole growth cycle it is 9.2 days per growth cycle that you are robbing the plant of the ability to do what nature wanted, to grow as big and healthy as possible. So the next generation has a better chance of survival and so on. Me personally I know how much growth occurs in a 10 day period so I want to give them everything they want, which I believe is two main things, lots of lighting for 24 hours a day and AIR to the roots(anyone who knows me, knows my thoughts on air to the rootzone)

I know this sounds like I am rambling, but I do believe that having all of your growth variables maxed out is the way to grow(just my own personal feelings) And the lighting cycle is right at the top of that hierarchy of needs for the cannabis, along with o2 to the max. I hopepy G I didn't ramble too hard lol. Happy Growing my friend
Thanks for all the detailed reply’s....I have run my grow 24/0 before,and it never made any difference to my grow/yield what so ever,all I ended up with was a bigger electric bill lol.i totally understand what you talking about @derek420colorado ,but if I can still produce the same yield running 20/4 as running 24/0...it’s a no brainier in my eyes lol :pass:
 
Sure it can be that's why there is only 12 hours at the equator and 16 plus hours @ 51°N

Yes but where cannabis ruderalis grows, in the upper most latitudes the photoperiod is essentially 24 hours on for 3 months. It never gets all the way dark in say Alaska or Siberia in the summer time so they have adapted to survive and thrive by adjusting their dependence on the sunlight gradually becoming shorter and shorter. Up there once the earth tips there you go, from fall straight to winter lol

This is one of the reasons if you look at a lot of the more respected growers here on AFN use 24/0, because after growing them almost exclusively for 4 or 5 years and doing a variety of science based research, I determined that you are not getting the plants full potential unless you are usin
Thanks for all the detailed reply’s....I have run my grow 24/0 before,and it never made any difference to my grow/yield what so ever,all I ended up with was a bigger electric bill lol.i totally understand what you talking about @derek420colorado ,but if I can still produce the same yield running 20/4 as running 24/0...it’s a no brainier in my eyes lol :pass:

I wish I had my other computer as it has all of my data on it where I did several side by side comparisons with a control group etc. It can be a strain dependent thing on how the extended photoperiod will affect the overall size and yield. Some strains I saw as big as 38% difference(and this after calculating the margin of error because autos are grown from seed so each one is different even if slightly) in the overall dry yield. Now with all that being said there is always going to be a degree of not bein able to apply the scientific method to this experiment, due to phenotypical variance.

I was able to get a 7 variable controlled(this is the part that you have to take the law of averages) experiments on things like, does LSTing increase yield, does organic grown pot have more terps. I also focused several of them on yield because that is one of the biggest knocks on autos is that they don't yield enough. So when I was doing this research, as best I could in friggin Texas. I came to several conclusions of which I am certain if the experiment was extrapolated the results would be within the margin of error.

I don't want to clog @Lizardking thread up with all this though lol, I could go on for hours and hours. In fact I love to do just that, have intelligent conversations with people who are like minded and don't have sticks up there butts. This is what makes AFN special, we are all in this together. I think it may be because we are the outcasts and pariahs to the "industry" of cannabis. I would love to continue our discussion either on my thread below or just shoot me a PM.

http://autoflower.net/forums/threads/house-of-dreams-illuminauto-edition.61722/
 
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