I had my mothers under a 3' T5 2 bulb for ever and the top half was OK to say the best. The rest of the plant was dead or close to it. I switched out for 2 300w old style, 1 for mothers and one for my breeding experiment and EVERYTHING loves them so far. I have tons of new growth from the bottom of the mothers that were dying slowly from lack of light. The only thing is that you have to have about 24" of head room over plants so there is no bleaching. But for $76~ each is TOTALLY worth it!