New Grower Al's Think Different Round 2 grow

[Albert Eimstoned]

Man I'm kind of freaking out right now. I took them out to take pics in natural light and they look like shit. I really hope I didn't kill these plants as the buds on the bigger one are already super frosty. Here the pics are:



Ok so here is what I've done:

A few days ago as I said I gave them a full strength flower tea from TLOsoils.com

Today I read the package on the Flower Power spike (6.5-5.25-0.75) and it said you could use it as a top or side dressing. I put one tablespoon (sprinkled all around but not close to the stem) on each 3 gallon container and watered with about 1/4 gallon each. Have I really screwed up? I will wait to get an answer before I do anything. It sucks because last grow I used the same shit and only had Cal/Mag issues (was using RO/DI water). This time no Cal/Mag issues whatsoever and now this. So frustrating. I'm really considering for the next grow reading up on hydro and using Tang's method. What say you, Autoflower nation?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

ok cool ,thanks..hold tight.ill be with ya in just a few.kinda doing something atm.:Sharing One: no worries,we'll get ya sorted.

 

[Albert Eimstoned]

Awesome. Thanks a lot for the help. Since I'm only doing two at a time if I screw up this late into it I'm set back for a while...

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Ok cool. you welcome to go Hydro but youd be doing yourself a massive disservice imo. But it sounds like you used a revs tea..?tlosoils.com.so,if thats the case and(what soil mix you using?)if your using the 2.1 mix with a grow in it already the PH is rolling low firstly.very mild cal mag,but thats so slight it aint even funny cuz its there just not being utilized as awesome.so you'll see very little discoloration in that relm.But since the Prilled lime has been used(assuming its not amended..?)up and most of the solid heavier foods have been eaten and broken down. ,and having added more to it(TLO tea pre mixed recipe set for higher feeding plants its not getting what it needs completley) it's creeping in man.thats all.its saveable ,but your yield and quality will suffer some.at this point Id say not that bad.but you need to get that soil PH up.lime fluffed into the outter ring of your pot(s) firstly.then with a higher PH'd water such as rain or decent well water preferably(earth juice can be used,Double up) or bubbled tap without the chloramines n the like,chlorine too,ya know the drill..lol! but once you do that when the soil is a little dryer and ready for watering.hit her good(dont flat out flush) and just run a soil gallon or 1.5 gallons with a fair run off.and do that each time you water and within a cpl weeks it'll start coming around some.some leaves will remain discolored since like you said,its late and already fully flowering too.But you'll not kill them if you do what I mentioned and get the PH up just a touch.a Tbspoon in the rings fluffed in some and a light light sprinkle on top of dolomite lime.and the water,WITh theee lightest soup feed you got.Alaskan bloom with low N,about 2 or so,and once you've rinsed,fed n start the PH climbing with a good high PH water you should be ok.I ran into that last year and just let the rain sort it out for me.worked like a charm man.so thats the path id go. you have the 2.1 mix? if so thats whats going on.if not...hmm,could be two issues in combo similar to this.PH n low foods and not awesome Micro buggy dudes.they are stressed since there is less foods and things to cling and grasp onto n feed on.does that help ya out?so you need to put some nice WP's with a literally mellow Water bubbled tea with a small teaspoon molasses,and a small teaspoon of EWC and (for a gallon mix) then bubble it with large bubbles and a good bit of action.not just the pump from walmart will suffice really.small bubbles kills the life after a short time.unless ya have several lines then its ok.

 

[Albert Eimstoned]

Yes I used the Rev's tea. It came in the bundle and I used it last time pretty successfully.

I used the following configuration for the soil in my pot per the Rev's book:

this is going to read basically looking at the pot from the side with the top ingredients being the top layer

2 Tsp High "N" Blend
Earthworm Castings & 2.1 Mix
2.1 Mix
Steer Manure Mix
2 Tsp High "N" Blend

In the middle I put a cup and filled around it leaving a hole. I then filled that hole (about the size of a pint glass) with Mellow Mix.

Now for the fix, let me see if I understand you correctly:

1. Get some dolomite lime (around a tablespoon per plant) and fluff it into the outer ring.
2. Is dechlorinated tap water ok to use? I've been using this the entire grow as well water is not accessible. Using this water I should make a tea (i'm assuming using the "New Roots Tea" which is supposed to be very light) with EWC added and water more than usual i.e. 1-1.5 gallons.

Sorry if I misunderstood anything. Does it matter when I last watered the plants? I've always heard it stressed that you shouldn't overwater but maybe I'm not understanding why or when it's ok to water more.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Yup,if you had that mix and grew in it once already and did not re amend with those current ingredients,what I said is true.not if you used that full on,Im a little wierded out by the fact it didnt kill your plant.you said Castings WITh a 2.1 packet and another packet as well? but if you just used one with a grow in the soil as I understood you your spot on.

The watering,only do the tea thing when its ready to be watered.not before. and do the lime right away.and the mellow tea you mentioned Ive not used,but its a mellow brew.brew that and cut it by atleast 30% by volume.but i frew my own custom mixes for that mix.brews n things.its worked excellent so far.but yeah man,do that n you should be alright in a short amount of time assuming your Tea PH is ok.thats when it can get tricky.yer not supposed to PH a living tea.period.BUT! you can if done decently.use earth juice PH stuffs and add it right before applying.testing it just to make sure.you need to buffer it up a little.that'll be ok for a time or two.your adding small life(cuz of PH'ing) instead of larger counts of microbes,and aslo applying needed foods and raising the PH a little to in turn effect the slight rise in the soil taking up the more needed foods.Some of your leaves will stay that color for a bit.so dont panic.it takes a little time.no worries.if you wanna smoke it,then I would advise against a foliar.but of not,id hit that with a kelp foliar if your doing an oil or anything..? does that answer your question man?

 

[Albert Eimstoned]

The soil I used has not been grown in before. I meant that I used the same kind of soil and from the same place as last time. The kit came with the following:

The TLO Starter Pack contains everything you need to grow 5 - 6 large plants in 3 - 5 gallon containers. The TLO Starter Pack is designed for the small home gardener looking to produce the highest quality organic flowers, fruits and herbs possible� � The TLO Starter Pack Contains: 40 Quarts of 2.1 Master Mix 16 Quarts of Mellow Mix 16 Quarts of Manure Bottom Layer Blend 1 lb. Pure Power Spike 1 lb. Flower Power Spike 1 lb. All Purpose Veg Spike 1 lb All Purpose Flower Spike 1 lb High N Layer Blend 5 New Roots Teas 5 High Powered Veg Teas 5 Flowering Teas 5 Finishing Teas

I still had lots of stuff left over from last grow so for this one I just ordered another bag of 2.1 mix (40 quarts) and some Castings (20 quarts). If I stick with TLO growing I'm just going to brew my own soil. I have no idea what quality controls are going on where I bought this stuff so it might just be better to make my own. If I did this do you have a good beginner mix that you recommend?

I'm growing to smoke only, no oil so a foliar is pretty much out of the question now.

 

[Albert Eimstoned]

Here is what my container looks like exactly:

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Dude,imho that potting layered style is truly garbage imo man. I used thee exact recipe twice now.Once reammended in a small pot and once as a medium blend hit with my own teas and plug potting.Dont layer with autos.its too much work for almost zero benefit.Ive done this a time er four with these methods.

There is way too much stuff going on in TOO many zones of the root structure in turn throwing the very genetics as well as the PH is low.TOO much blood meal and added guano to the pack.Im still think its off cuz of that.But you didnt know man.Layered like that bro, can be used but you have to style it for autos.which it the key for these recipes man.Ill tell you what!!

I have thee same exact mix coming up.in my fall grow in a small few weeks or so.get a batch ready of you have any and follow along and do what I do and I swear you'll get some of the buds buds IVE ever smoked n eaten LOL!Im also cooking a new batch of 2.1 I made myself as the Medium strength mix from the 2.1 pack.ya up for it?!!

 

[Albert Eimstoned]

I guess I just assumed that the layer style would work for autos as well. My next grow is actually going to be a photo grow (Barney's Farm - Blue Cheese fem) so would the layering technique be applicable or should I just scrap it altogether. Would your mix work with photos? I'm up for anything at this point. I'll take an inventory later (the grow is not at my house) and let you know what I have on hand and maybe you can tell me what I'll need. I apologize for leaning so hard on you at this point but I really appreciate the help. Books can only teach me so much.